Marsdengiant wrote: Home grown has nothing to do with being a product of the club it simply aims to clear up the quota mess.
If by home grown you mean produced from the club then i do not think they do. Ralleigh made his pro debut at Sheffield at around the age of 21/22 he then had 2 further years at Hull KR which would have made him 24ish when he joined Hudds.
Hudson though i will give you but the irony is that you got rid after 1 year of first team rugby, after which point he went on to captain his country and county, and better still is no longer even a Hudds player. Kind of sums up the development of Huddersfield. Wigan get slated for releasing some players who come from a large pool. Hudds release one of there best products in recent history who went on to great heights and you are using it as a defence of your system!
Once again you are completely wrong. The 'federation trained' classification has been used to address quota issues. The 'homegrown' classification is explicitly to encourage clubs to develop their own players. It is easy to confuse these issues if you do not grasp the detail.
So Hudson was with us for a reasonable time! Glad you now have got your facts straight. Hurrah. Kear was the head coach and Kear got rid of him. I agree he was an idiot for doing so
I have never slated Wigan for releasing players so your [ ] is a typically futile gesture.
Marsdengiant wrote: I couldnt care less how many players you have or have not produced, that is your issue, not mine (as a supporter) I was simply responding to that muppet blaming wigan for the poor showing at international level.
He was asked a simple question, and could not answer it, then to start making things up is pathetic. You cant claim a 24 year old signed from somewhere else as a player you have produced!
Anyway, the sooner every club starts doing their bit with regard to junior development, the better the state of the national game will be in and i think everyone regardless of being a Wigan fan or not can agree on that!
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Marsdengiant wrote:
jonh wrote: Once again you are completely wrong. The 'federation trained' classification has been used to address quota issues. The 'homegrown' classification is explicitly to encourage clubs to develop their own players. It is easy to confuse these issues if you do not grasp the detail.
So Hudson was with us for a reasonable time! Glad you now have got your facts straight. Hurrah. Kear was the head coach and Kear got rid of him. I agree he was an idiot for doing so
I have never slated Wigan for releasing players so your [ ] is a typically futile gesture.
So are you willing to accept that infact neither Ralleigh or Hudson are actually home grown (my bad on the wording) as you claim as Hudson does not play for Hudds, which makes your stance even more strange and Ralleigh did not sign for Hudds till he was 24/25?
Add to this the fact the Hudds have had to pad out the first team squad with the likes of Richard Lopag and Chris Lawson to fall into line with the minimum requirements of this rule is hardly great is it?
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Marsdengiant wrote: So are you willing to accept that infact neither Ralleigh or Hudson are actually home grown (my bad on the wording) as you claim as Hudson does not play for Hudds, which makes your stance even more strange and Ralleigh did not sign for Hudds till he was 24/25?
Add to this the fact the Hudds have had to pad out the first team squad with the likes of Richard Lopag and Chris Lawson to fall into line with the minimum requirements of this rule is hardly great is it?
I understand what the RFL mean by federation trained and homegrown. Your ill informed comments about homegrown and the quota show that you are clueless. Getting your knickers in a twist over the defintions re Hudson and Raleigh shows you are out of your depth. Why not spend a little time checking the facts rather than spouting prejudices.
You may not like my views but to specifically name a couple of young guys - giving their best - and denigrate them is really cheap.
I may find your ignorance on RFL categories of players laughable. I would not dream of naming some youngsters at Wigan or Wakey and insulting them to make a point.
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Marsdengiant wrote:
jonh wrote: I understand what the RFL mean by federation trained and homegrown. Your ill informed comments about homegrown and the quota show that you are clueless. Getting your knickers in a twist over the defintions re Hudson and Raleigh shows you are out of your depth. Why not spend a little time checking the facts rather than spouting prejudices.
You may not like my views but to specifically name a couple of young guys - giving their best - and denigrate them is really cheap.
I may find your ignorance on RFL categories of players laughable. I would not dream of naming some youngsters at Wigan or Wakey and insulting them to make a point.
Shame on you jonh.
Slow down speedy. I hold my hand up and say i got that wording wrong, fair play no problem. But you are claiming Ralleigh is a "home grown" player when clearly he is not, he joined the club as a 24 year old, i would know as i spent much of my time at university playing with and against him.
The point regards Hudson is you or your friend can claim him to be home grown, but the point is he plays for Castleford.
Given the fact sometime almost 5 years since i stopped playing the sport i had to pull on a Giants shirt last year to play in a reserve fixture it shows just how inadequate the system was at the club......something that i am glad to say is changing.
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just to join the debate after the first post (dont think ive posted in this thread before), tonight will be our first game of the season.
that is in part due to the pathetic performances of the last 3 or 4 seasons (for which we have had season tickets) but also due to financial constraints that mean we cannot attend as many games as we'd like. in truth, the only reason we are going tonight is for the £10 tickets we got through the NHS (although i think we would have been attending anyway )
if whats on show isnt worthing paying for then people wont pay or go the extra mile to find the money to attend
[Gareth] wrote:just to join the debate after the first post (dont think ive posted in this thread before), tonight will be our first game of the season.
that is in part due to the pathetic performances of the last 3 or 4 seasons (for which we have had season tickets) but also due to financial constraints that mean we cannot attend as many games as we'd like. in truth, the only reason we are going tonight is for the £10 tickets we got through the NHS (although i think we would have been attending anyway )
if whats on show isnt worthing paying for then people wont pay or go the extra mile to find the money to attend
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