That just makes to much sense and it would benefit Wigan and that would never do .

Sorry mate but Paul Reilly had a season where he was top or pushing for top (behind Wellens) fullback of the season.

Any other team and he would have got a shot with GB/England, you cannot comment cos you dont watch these players every week.

Raleigh is outstanding for us week in and week out and would say on current form is performing well above the likes of Hock and O'Loughlin but can guess who will be picked for England.

Crabtree is another who week in week out delivers for us, playing better than Burgess of Bradford so in my opinion should be picked before Burgess and get a shot with England.

It's about time we picked players on form and not which club they play for, cos picking players like Sinfield, Farrell and Sculthorpe at standoff for GB rather than someone who plays that position, from one of the so called lesser clubs has not got us very far in the past has it?

Like I say pick 1-17 of Wigoon players and you will be happy

So you see Hock and O'Loughlin week in week out?

There's so much to laugh at I don't know where to begin!

Yeah it's a conspiracy! Even Ex Hudds coach Tony Smith was told Not to pick any Hudds Players!

He asked you a question, as far as I see it you have failed to come up with any kind of decent response, so as far as I see it, You've been put in your place!

He asked you for a list of 3! Not 33! You would think Shudds would be able to come up with 3 over the last 20 years or so wouldn't you!

Ask us to name 3 and we can probably name 33!

Ask us to name players who have played SL/Old 1st division in the last 20 years and we could probabaly name 133!

You were the one who came on here all cocky because youv'e managed to get yourself a bit too over excited about being 3rd a quarter or so through the season, I suggest you save that cockiness for a time when you actually may finish 3rd at the end of the season!
You were the one criticising Wigan for having too many Foreigners when you lot have been more than guilty of that previously!
I believe we have around 8 Wigan Lads (9 if you include Hansen as he's been at Wigan since he was a kid) in our 1st 20 or so players at the club (It will actually be 9 tomoorow as Gleeson's signed!) that We have produced.

How many Huddersfeld lads have you got in your 1st 20????

I bet theirs more Wiganners in your 1st 20 than Hudds lads and your trying to take the Mick out of us for Not helping GB!

Just had a Nice PM responding to my quote above! Here Goes!


Jay Dee Wrote
"Yeh you do have a look at hudds last 2 seasons league places
2008 admittedly poor 10th..however both Wild & Aspinwall missed most of season through injury so i find it hard to blame them. Although they did play in the 34-4 home thrashing last July

However I think you need to brush up on your research pal though..2007- 5th place finish..above the 'mighty' Wigan, full of ex wigan players interestingly.
2006- CC Final, full of ex wiganers again..can't be bad pal.

Oh & another thing. When was the last time the 'mighty' Wigan actually reached some major finals???...2003 GF, 2004 CC, both participated by Wild, Aspinwall, Hodgson, brown 'etc'.
How many times have you seen these blokes play in the last 4 years???....take the rose tinted wigan specs off, try to get some knowledge about the game & prepare yourself for an age of mid table mediocrity. 1995 was a long time ago sunshine"

I think if you look back at the previous posts it was a Hudds Fan who was lamenting Wigan for not bringing enough youngsters through and playing too many Aussies!
He was asked to name 3 GB players over the last 20 Years! 3 that's all! Not sure if he mentioned to get 1!
At the same time he even had the gaul to say in a roundabout way it was Wigan's fault that GB were so poor against the Aussies!

If you can't take it, don't give it! and I'm afraid mate he lost his argument Big time!

Now if 1 CC Final and getting pasted in the last 50 years is something to start crowing about for Huddersfield then Wiganners deserve the right to talk/brag about 50 Major finals in the past 25 years or so!

Yes, you may be right that our success over the past 3/4 seasons has been very poor by OUR STANDARDS! But you see tht's the difference, by Hudds standards that last 2 would still have been a success story!

The reason those 4 or so you mentioned arent at Wigan is because they were simply "NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR WIGAN!". We may have been limited in our success at replacing them although I feel we have better players than all of those at Wigan at the moment even though we are poor and not playing well (You will see if you look hard enough that Wiganners actually feel it is the coaches methods who are to blame!).
Would any of those players get into the current Wigan team?? I Doubt it!
Do I lay awake at night worrying about losing any of them?? No!

You see it takes a Big Player to fill a Wigan shirt and whilst being a Big fish in a small pond may be ok for some players and going to Huddersfield may suit them and maybe even help them improve without the pressure of being at a Big Club, it doesn't mean they could Handle it at a Wigan or a Leeds for example!

Wigan are struggling a bit like Man U did for all those years when teysigned players to try and catch Liverpool but eventually they did get the right mix and look what happened then!

Wigan Will get it right at some point and I'm afraid we won't be gloating over a 3rd place qtr season and 1 CC runners up in 50 years!

Jesus H

The latest developments regarding Gleeson have somewhat generated optomism for the future that has not been there in a while, it does show we are making effort and willing to invest in the club when it is needed.

Although the initial post was not aimed as a dig at the club, I have to say that the recent events have been well managed by the club, i have made my issues clear regarding what i think is at the core of the problem, but i am happy to see positive attempts to kickstart the club back into life.

So let me get this straight, you call wigan for letting young lads go, but by your own admission, hudson started at hudds and was shipped out to cas? Was that about the same time you brought in brad drew? You will have to tell me as i dont know about your commings and goings sorry.

And Raliegh may be a decent hard working forward, but at international level, you need a little bit more than that. And fine by me leave hock and lockers out, put raleigh in, but then when we get mullered who you gonna blame. And so Riley was the second best full back in the league for one season, will have to take your word for that is I always thought he was a hard worker but nothing speical. Still second best fullback dont get you a starting shirt when there is only 1 fullback in the team now does it!

Oh if forgot it will be Wigan for selling their kids!

Blaming us for all of rugbys ills is getting old after 20 years, can we not start blaming two bit clubs like huds wakfield and Cas who have contributed the sum total of nothing between them to the comp over the last 30 years!

I am also not sure how he can claim either Hudson or Ralleigh came through the Huddersfield ranks, as it simply is not true.