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Mild Rover wrote:Zero tolerance: De-register him.
We must do something: A disrepute charge and whatever range of sanctions that covers.
Following precedent: Nothing.
But the RFL will have to adopt some guidelines if they are to introduce a sanction for off the field offences, they cannot just select willy nilly who they want to punish based on how much they disliked the offence.
What about drugs, do they say 'we will ban player A for 12 months because it was recreational and player B because it was performance enhancing', don't we have a policy on that. If the RFL want to punish him, so be it, if its a life ban, so be it, what I want is the SAME for every player convicted and sentenced for violence offences. What we cannot have is one player getting a year because he was caught on CCTV kicking someone and another gettng less because it was less public.
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Forever FC wrote:I think this is more the fact that you are trying to defend the kid as he is a rovers player. That speaks more about you then anything you are trying to portray about me.
Not at all. What he did was awful. I would not want it to happen to anyone I know.
It just so happens that I find phoney indignation and self righteousness distasteful and there is plenty of it on this thread.
Forever FC wrote:Have a look at my past posts I have the odd funny humourous dig at rovers but I have also applauded there players in the past for taking part in things like R.Hornes testimonial night etc.
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Gordon Gekko wrote:You said the RFL should stay out of it as it has nothing to do with them. So who sanctions his playing registration??? He is a professional RL player so it has everything to do with the governing body of that profession.
Using you logic NOBODY would ever get sacked for anything unless it happened in thier place of work.
I did not say he should not or could could not be sacked; by his employer (Hull KR) The RFL are not his employer, if they stick thier oar in they punish the club and the club's supporters for something that was un releated to Rugby League. All I'm saying is why should they talk about involving them selves in this incident, when other incidents of violence out side of the RL arena get ignored?
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rover49 wrote:But the RFL will have to adopt some guidelines if they are to introduce a sanction for off the field offences, they cannot just select willy nilly who they want to punish based on how much they disliked the offence.
What about drugs, do they say 'we will ban player A for 12 months because it was recreational and player B because it was performance enhancing', don't we have a policy on that. If the RFL want to punish him, so be it, if its a life ban, so be it, what I want is the SAME for every player convicted and sentenced for violence offences. What we cannot have is one player getting a year because he was caught on CCTV kicking someone and another gettng less because it was less public.
It all could end up a bit like the trial by television in the 80's when Roy Holdtsock was banned after a cup tie against Widnes.
There were certainly some inconsistent decisions after that.
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Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
Captain Dave wrote:It all could end up a bit like the trial by television in the 80's when Roy Holdtsock was banned after a cup tie against Widnes. There were certainly some inconsistent decisions after that.
True, the never bothered with it for ages, it seemed it was brought in just for the one off.
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rover49 wrote:But the RFL will have to adopt some guidelines if they are to introduce a sanction for off the field offences, they cannot just select willy nilly who they want to punish based on how much they disliked the offence.
What about drugs, do they say 'we will ban player A for 12 months because it was recreational and player B because it was performance enhancing', don't we have a policy on that. If the RFL want to punish him, so be it, if its a life ban, so be it, what I want is the SAME for every player convicted and sentenced for violence offences. What we cannot have is one player getting a year because he was caught on CCTV kicking someone and another gettng less because it was less public.
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Pudsey Robin wrote:I did not say he should not or could could not be sacked; by his employer (Hull KR) The RFL are not his employer, if they stick thier oar in they punish the club and the club's supporters for something that was un releated to Rugby League. All I'm saying is why should they talk about involving them selves in this incident, when other incidents of violence out side of the RL arena get ignored?
If that were to happen i suggest you take it up your grievance with Ben.
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Well done Cas I say, setting a good example, although the fact it was a reserve player maybe made the decision easier. Hopefully Rovers will follow suit. I would ask 2 questions; If I were an employer and one of my employees did this would I want them working for me? No.
If I were an employee and did this and had my name name plastered all over the papers with CCTV footage of the attack availiable for all to see online would I expect to keep my job? No. It's only through sheer luck that Cockayne isn't doing 15 for murder.
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Dave K. wrote:After watcihing the CCTV footage, there is no question taht Rovers should sack him, i would want exactly the same if it was a Hull player.
How he didnt get a jail sentance for that I will never know.
I wouldnt be happy if I was the victim or his family.
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