Joined: Aug 11 2006 Posts: 3789 Location: North Sea and beyond
Phlipflop wrote:Also if RFl do do something and suspend Ben.. they must then continue with consistency, particularly in the case of Pryce & Reardon etc.
As stated there have been a number of incidents recently, including one involving Matt Calland , I doubt that this and any other previous incidents will be now be investigated retrospectively.
I do not agree with the 'make an example of ' style of punishment either.
The RFL have had enough incidents involving violence to consider, to instigate there own punishments but have failed to do so - AFAIK.
The RFL and British sport in general do however have a very low tolerance to drug use , including those classed by some as 'recreational'.
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Joined: Jan 30 2004 Posts: 4414 Location: Posh Bransholme
Yes he is lucky but if the Rugby League decides to ban him then lets hope if Pryce and Reardon get done they should get the same punishment like phlip flop said especially Pryce its twicw now for him.
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Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
cofr_rockin_robin wrote:When was the last time drug dealers got off with a suspended sentence , oh yes wait a few months back because they had the title of Lord and Lady. Not condoning what he did it was shocking but please do not turn this argument into a Rovers v Hull . I wouldn't have been suprised if he had gone down for what he had done .
I haven't, because what he did has nothing to do with Rovers. They now have to pick up the pieces and whatever they end up doing they're going to make somebody unhappy.
He's a lucky lad to get a (relatively) lenient sentence for an offence that typically results in jail time. I'm not going to comment on whether it's 'unduly lenient' or not as I don't have all the facts of the case that the Judge will have had access to when deciding on an appropriate punishment. I just hope that Cockayne appreciates how stupid he's been and how fortunate he is, and makes better choices in the future.
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Joined: Jan 14 2009 Posts: 297 Location: A hop, skip and a jump from the Stoop! (otherwise known as Isleworth!)
I cannot condone what he did, regardless of the circumstance.
Im an FC fan and making an example of him would not be beneficial to anyone. There have been numerous misdeameanours from more 'high profile' stars - so the example should have been made of them.
Unfortuntely, if your life (and wage) is derived on performing in the public eye, then youre actions must also be be based on what happens in the public eye.
You cannot simply shirk your reponsibilities once off the pitch.
Morgan has huge respect from his players, and he'll certainly be talking to BC. Im sure people like Vella and Gene will also be sorting BC out.
All the best to Kr in the Derby. Lets hope it all stays on the field.
Joined: Nov 21 2007 Posts: 1565 Location: East hull
What ben has done is wrong and should of warrented a jail term of more than 3 nights, but who am i to judge, he has been up in court and has recieved his punishment although lenient indeed there are far worse crimes and more dangerous people let off for far worser crimes see here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ution.html
What ben has done is wrong and should of warrented a jail term of more than 3 nights, but who am i to judge, he has been up in court and has recieved his punishment although lenient indeed there are far worse crimes and more dangerous people let off for far worser crimes see here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ution.html
Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
Neil HFC wrote:I agree, I was gobsmacked when Raynor (I assume that's who you are referring to) got off with the sentence he did, and Cooke before him.
Especially as a racial element to ANY crime seems to carry a jail sentence. I think any act of violence that results in such convictions deserves a jail stint, Cockayne, Raynor, Pryce or Reardon and it seems that sportsman are immune from being banged up.
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Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
Kosh wrote:When was the last time someone got a suspended sentence and community service for murder?
1964 I believe
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Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
therobins wrote:And if he was a Hull FC player, would you and your cronies be so vociferous on the subject? If your presence here is a Hull v Rovers thing (which it obviously is), go sell your crazy some place else.
Ben did wrong. Not for you or I to stand in judgement. Let those in more elevated places than we do that. End of story.
High time this one was locked.
I think the majority of the more sensible FC fans on here HAVE condemned thuggery by their own players, admittedly some are treating it like a Rovers v Hull FC thing, but at the end of the day Ben was convicted of a serious offence, which some of us believe (when taking the supporter bit away) that he deserved a bit of slopping out time, this also goes for Raynor as well as any other thug in a rugby shirt.
Ben has had his sentence, some think it was lenient, some don't and as a player on match days he will get my support, but I hope he has learned his lesson and knuckles down to develop himself both as a player and as a man and cut out the crap, he is capable of becoming a much better player.
He also has to remember he is a role model for all the kids who adore him because of his commitment and love of this club.
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Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
PAUL M wrote:He's a lucky boy, lets hope he leanrs his lesson. I am all in favour of the RFL and clubs taking further action against players in these cases.
So long as its not selective, I agree.
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