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Suzie wrote:I was on jury service last year on a near identical case to Ben's, needless to say both young men got custodial sentances.
He's been extremely lucky and the fact that he's a sportsman and probably in a position to employ a top lawyer certainly will have helped his case. It's hard to take because if it was a member of joe public no doubt they would be in prison now. Whether it be Raynor,Cooke, Reardon or Pryce this should not be allowed to happen,the justice system is a joke.
I dis agree 100% thats a load of tosh,wether i support Bens sentence or not is irrelevant, but i fail to see how you can say its a must custodial case?
There are cases in the news week in week out of people getting off with this that and other things ranging from driving offences to murder, I dont believe for a second you were on jury duty and for anyone to suggest the man deserves prison seems based only on the fact that he is a Rovers player.
As has been stated Gareth Raynor who has been a bad boy on more than one or two occassions has gone on to successfuly represent hes country and thrive as a league player(well to a certain standard anyway),I remember having him join in our coaching sessions around four years ago with the kids as part of his community payback.
What i am saying is two wrongs dont make a right but if someone can learn what they have done and truly repent and seek to encourage others to behave better than they have, then even in the harshest of periods some good can come out of something very bad.
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redtillimdead wrote:I dis agree 100% thats a load of tosh,wether i support Bens sentence or not is irrelevant, but i fail to see how you can say its a must custodial case?
There are cases in the news week in week out of people getting off with this that and other things ranging from driving offences to murder, I dont believe for a second you were on jury duty and for anyone to suggest the man deserves prison seems based only on the fact that he is a Rovers player.
As has been stated Gareth Raynor who has been a bad boy on more than one or two occassions has gone on to successfuly represent hes country and thrive as a league player(well to a certain standard anyway),I remember having him join in our coaching sessions around four years ago with the kids as part of his community payback.
What i am saying is two wrongs dont make a right but if someone can learn what they have done and truly repent and seek to encourage others to behave better than they have, then even in the harshest of periods some good can come out of something very bad.
Personally, I think he and his friend should have been put in prison because they repeatedly kicked someone in the head whilst they were lying on the floor helpless. Not JUST because he's a Rovers player..
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he doesnt deserve prison because he is a rovers player,but because he went back to dish out more.the 1st attack you might claim was in the heat of the moment,but not the second.that is just cowardly.all you backing him should be ashamed of yourselves.
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kim-or-lee wrote:Personally, I think he and his friend should have been put in prison because they repeatedly kicked someone in the head whilst they were lying on the floor helpless. Not JUST because he's a Rovers player..
Yet you weekly support a player that pushed a glass into another mans face.
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rightly or wrongly he got off lightly, get over it! he will be back on the field doing what he does best and if he has'nt been tought a lesson over this there is only one place he will end up.
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redtillimdead wrote:There are cases in the news week in week out of people getting off with this that and other things ranging from driving offences to murder
When was the last time someone got a suspended sentence and community service for murder?
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redtillimdead wrote:I dis agree 100% thats a load of tosh,wether i support Bens sentence or not is irrelevant, but i fail to see how you can say its a must custodial case?
There are cases in the news week in week out of people getting off with this that and other things ranging from driving offences to murder, I dont believe for a second you were on jury duty and for anyone to suggest the man deserves prison seems based only on the fact that he is a Rovers player.
As has been stated Gareth Raynor who has been a bad boy on more than one or two occassions has gone on to successfuly represent hes country and thrive as a league player(well to a certain standard anyway),I remember having him join in our coaching sessions around four years ago with the kids as part of his community payback.
What i am saying is two wrongs dont make a right but if someone can learn what they have done and truly repent and seek to encourage others to behave better than they have, then even in the harshest of periods some good can come out of something very bad.
Just to spin it about, say for sake of argument, all hyperthetical like, would you view be the same if Cockayne was a FC player? Or is it just becuase he is a Rovers player you've decided people are lying about their jury service and developed the ability to determine posters motives based on 4 lines of text.
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Neil HFC wrote:Just to spin it about, say for sake of argument, all hyperthetical like, would you view be the same if Cockayne was a FC player? Or is it just becuase he is a Rovers player you've decided people are lying about their jury service and developed the ability to determine posters motives based on 4 lines of text.
No my view regardless of who he played for would not change.
I was asked if i would accept help from G.Raynor as part of his community payback after one of hes mis-demeanors and took him on board, the club name is not important, ai am merely suggesting that people all over our country are getting more lenient sentences so just because Ben has it shouldnt be misconstrewed as something out of the ordinary.
As for the jury case bit, why say anything else? I dont believe the poster did jury service in a case almost exactly the same as Bens so why say any different?
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