worthing wire wrote:Eh?

worthing wire wrote:Yes, I gather all that. I just think that ruling out horses who have previously completed slightly contradicts the form over the fences bit.

Amberleigh House was placed the year before it won;
Hedgehunter fell at the last one year, won it the next and was 2nd the next;
West Tip placed three times after winning it;
Monty's Pass was placed the year after it won;
Party Politics placed subsequent to winning

I could probably go on. But won't

Carneys Pint wrote:Apologies - it's more horses who've previously placed/completed without winning to rule out

Will post a couple of my strong fancies tommorow. Nothing at a monster price but value non the less.

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:Some very interesting entries, Exotic Dancer and Imperial Commander are both entered for the Melling and the Bowl, cant see either of them beating Denman in the Bowl, so may take on Voy Pur in the Melling who would have improved from it's Festival run.

Carneys Pint wrote:It's easy enough to narrow it down to a few serious contenders.

Rule out the following:

Horses who have fallen or unseated this season

Horses aged 6 or those aged 12 and over

Those who have completed in previous Nationals


Positives: Form over the National fences.

Carneys Pint wrote:If they've won it more than once it constitutes a win so they are in. However if they've placed more than once without winning they're out.

To clear it up:

If your horse has completed the National before it should be in 1st place.
If it has run in the National it has to have PU, BD, UR, F etc. the moment it finishes and doesn't win it's off the list.