RHJ......

you cant seriously be happy with the way things have gone this year ?

the performance is a crucial part of things , the manner of defeat...

both of the above have been totally unacceptable this year ,

take away the interception at quins , and we would be a lot worse off mentally

I'd say he's failed to play rugby the appeals to the masses. I have said before that Wigan fans will accept defeat if the team plays well; sadly we've been playing increasingly dour rugby (Bratfut excepted) with little to no success.



I think we all pretty much know Jonh is not a supporter of Noble's style of player tactics.



Most teams bar Saints and Leeds have occasionally had really poor games throughout the season. The operative here is occasionally, we seem to be having too many really poor games disproportionate to our previous two years' final table position.



I think we're all pretty much aware of that fact.



Then if we're the 3rd best team in the country and our on-pitch performance is the best we can consistently produce then we've chuff all chance of any hope of success unless Stains and Leeds cease to exist or capitulate overnight.

I think sadly the reaction to the win we had against Bradford shows he will fight to the end for Noble on here despite the evidence regardless as he simply is determined not to be proven wrong.

It's a weird one. He took over to try to bring the good times back, kept you up first year, got 3rd in SL the last two years and I really expected you to go one better this year.

There's plenty of time to go this year but so far the signs are not promising at all.

Shaun Edwards anyone?

Out of interest Jon, which would you prefer out of the following 2 scenarios:

1. Wigan play "well" all year, tail off a bit to the end, and finish 4th.

2. Wigan play sporadic all year, hit form come the playoffs and make the Grand final.

I know you weren't asking me but 2.

Leeds and Tony Smith were slated by some of the more knee jerky Leeds fans throughout 2007 for some disjointed performances but ultimately finished 2nd on the ladder. They then mullered Saints at Old Trafford.

As long as you qualify for the playoffs it doesnt matter how many you've lost up until then.

A team only has to finish eigth for the play-offs which means losing more than half its games. For a team on top salary cap it's a poor performance and gives no chance of a grand final.

I dont think we will see a great deal more him either, just plodding on, go taybarns, plod on, go taybarns, plod on, go taybarns and then back to Australia with a wedge of cash at the end.

Why are these the only options?

Neither have been anywhere near realistic in the last 2/3 years.

We are no closer to the top 2 and have infact been caught by the rest of the league.

I'll third that.

I think Bailey makes a good point on main website, when he says, 'It is so frustrating though. Just look at Cas, they have won four games by six points or less this season. We have lost four by one try or having scored the same amount of tries as the other team. Cas are now third and we are ninth!! The line between winning and losing is closer than ever before and unfortunately at the minute we are a victim of that.'

We could be so hyped up at this point in the season if lady luck bounced a little bit more our way.