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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:36 pm 
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wall-y wrote:I repeat...
why have we chosen a coach in Mr Agar to run one of the biggest clubs in the world !! its like fitting cheap seat covers in a Rolls Royce!!


Yes we heard you.

How does someone get experience of running "one of the biggest clubs in the world" (snigger) without actually doing it?






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MR BOJANGLES wrote:I was just gonna say a similar thing. Its not the result its the amateurish way we get beat that upsets so many !!!


I am just worried we will be back to the "well, it's working in training, the boys just have to do the business during the 80 minutes" that we have had from various coaches over the years.

The "learn a lesson" article is just flim flam, why not come out and admit we got the bench and the tactics wrong, if Agar has any confidence in his own abilities then he should back himself publicly.

I know we've only lost 2 games, but I want FC to be challenging the top, and you don't do that by losing in the manner which we have done.

I *almost* hope we lose on Sunday, I don't want another CC run papering over the cracks, it happened with Kear, to an extent Sharp and last year to an extent too.

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A passionate post from wally

1. Agar and Sharp could well end up ala Reilly and Hall - great when winning but who takes the blame when losing . Who took decision to replace Thacks with King , instead of dropping Sam Moa to 80 minutes game time in the reserves.

2.We haven't had a great coach since 1989 Brian Smith , since then we have had 'gambles' in Tank/Crooks/Walsh/Kear/Sharp/Agar. Coaches salaries are not in SCap so INVEST big on Wayne Bennett/Bellamy. Always looking for a cheap option and players don't respect cheap coaches. We have had cancers underneath every coach since and inc Walsh. McCrae wasn't a gamble but proved and has since totally proved that he is nothing more than a below average media savvy coach.

3. We will not beat Rovers playing 5 drives rubbish.

4. We miss Crocker as a big aggressive 13 and have not a quality 7

5. Berro must play 80 minutes and may well be still recovering






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Tarquin Fuego wrote:A passionate post from wally

1. Agar and Sharp could well end up ala Reilly and Hall - great when winning but who takes the blame when losing . Who took decision to replace Thacks with King , instead of dropping Sam Moa to 80 minutes game time in the reserves.

2.We haven't had a great coach since 1989 Brian Smith , since then we have had 'gambles' in Tank/Crooks/Walsh/Kear/Sharp/Agar. Coaches salaries are not in SCap so INVEST big on Wayne Bennett/Bellamy. Always looking for a cheap option and players don't respect cheap coaches. We have had cancers underneath every coach since and inc Walsh. McCrae wasn't a gamble but proved and has since totally proved that he is nothing more than a below average media savvy coach.

3. We will not beat Rovers playing 5 drives rubbish.

4. We miss Crocker as a big aggressive 13 and have not a quality 7

5. Berro must play 80 minutes and may well be still recovering


Cant miss something we never had surely!

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Irregs #16 wrote:Cant miss something we never had surely!


Is that your only comment ?

WE have set aside his salary and we therefore miss a player of his tremendous calibre or him , if he ever arrives. We are also short on Hame as his money is being not spent at present.

It's like signing Stacey Jones and he gets injured on the plane coming over drinking tea. We would then have Tommy Lee playing in a position where we have a £250,000 salary (ala Radford playing 13 now).






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COOL KEN wrote:I agree i think it would be a good idea to give Maloney a go. Will not hurt to try him,you never know might be a world beater.

He's Gotta play against Salford if not against them who can he play against :?
Washy gotta go back in at 13 Radders isn't loose man.
Possibly think of resting Dowes for this game (for Maloney)
Agar need's to start getting Tough and show it's NO PUSH OVER TO GET IN HIS 17!! :evil:

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Standee wrote:I am just worried we will be back to the "well, it's working in training, the boys just have to do the business during the 80 minutes" that we have had from various coaches over the years.

The "learn a lesson" article is just flim flam, why not come out and admit we got the bench and the tactics wrong, if Agar has any confidence in his own abilities then he should back himself publicly.

I know we've only lost 2 games, but I want FC to be challenging the top, and you don't do that by losing in the manner which we have done.

I *almost* hope we lose on Sunday, I don't want another CC run papering over the cracks, it happened with Kear, to an extent Sharp and last year to an extent too.


As I said in my post, if thats what is happening on the training pitch why has he changed it??? Hudds and Bradford we was attacking from our own 20, the last two we leave to the last tackle in their 10.






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Robbo4 wrote:Yes we heard you.

How does someone get experience of running "one of the biggest clubs in the world" (snigger) without actually doing it?


sorry didnt realise I was only talking to you now!!
so what do you class Hull FC as a training camp for potential SL coaches or a SL club that aspire to win trophies then!!
would you rather have a Bennet or Agar!!
HOPE YOU HEARD THAT TOO






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Laughable reaction regarding the coach. Sure his bench selection requires attention but he's coached us to five victories this year and we've played some decent rugby league. We failed to cope with the conditions against a torrid Quins side at the weekend. The weekend before players' individual errors cost us the game. Certain things need addressing but we have a couple of players still to join the club and a few to come back from injury. Jumping on the coach and suggesting he might not be up to it after 2 defeats is embarrassing.

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Tarquin Fuego wrote:A passionate post from wally

1. Agar and Sharp could well end up ala Reilly and Hall - great when winning but who takes the blame when losing . Who took decision to replace Thacks with King , instead of dropping Sam Moa to 80 minutes game time in the reserves.

2.We haven't had a great coach since 1989 Brian Smith , since then we have had 'gambles' in Tank/Crooks/Walsh/Kear/Sharp/Agar. Coaches salaries are not in SCap so INVEST big on Wayne Bennett/Bellamy. Always looking for a cheap option and players don't respect cheap coaches. We have had cancers underneath every coach since and inc Walsh. McCrae wasn't a gamble but proved and has since totally proved that he is nothing more than a below average media savvy coach.

3. We will not beat Rovers playing 5 drives rubbish.

4. We miss Crocker as a big aggressive 13 and have not a quality 7

5. Berro must play 80 minutes and may well be still recovering



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