Joined: Feb 20 2007 Posts: 10540 Location: Hunting Gopher
BlackNwhite wrote:If we tried to play expansive rugby last night and dropped ball after ball the same people would be here moaning that they shouldnt throw the ball about and should respect posession. There is a fine line
I agree, it's tough. However, a seemingly 3 pass maximum for any given tackle is nowhere near even approaching it.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29797 Location: West Yorkshire
A unknown superstar wrote:Another thing that p!sses me off is that when defending, our line move up about 2 metres then stop and wait for them. Whereas Leeds and Saints have a rush defence, which works a treat.
What hacks me off more is that for the first few games we moved up quickly and effectively. Last night in particular we looked as if we couldn't be bothered to.
Mrs Barista wrote:What hacks me off more is that for the first few games we moved up quickly and effectively. Last night in particular we looked as if we couldn't be bothered to.
gotta agree our defensive line was like a dogs hind leg.
Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.
Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.
We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving
Joined: Sep 19 2005 Posts: 826 Location: The Algarve
Jake the Peg wrote:Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.
Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.
We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving
Got to agree about PTB, why are we so slow?we'll never get a penalty for 'lying on' we seem to be happy to get up slowly, and when we're near oppositions line i'm not as confident about us scoring, yet when the opposition are nr our line i always feel they'll score.
Jake the Peg wrote:Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.
Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.
We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving
Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
Jake the Peg wrote:Offensiveley, we're very poor. Speed of the PTB is generally slow, and most of our players seem to struggle to pass the ball quickly and accurately. In the last 2 games we've struggled to make as many yards as the opposition with ball in hand.
Defensively, we were doing well early in the season but since the Huddersfield game we've gone backwards. I think it's down to fatigue from the props and 2nd rowers who are playing far too many minutes - which other team expects 2 props to do 65+ minutes each and their 2nd rowers to play the full match? It just looks too easy to make metres against us, putting us under unnecessary pressure.
We just look like the same team who were coached by sharp and I don't see it improving
Hard to disagree with any of that TBH.
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I think we have made a great start to the season so don't want to be to critical, but do agree that things have slipped in the last two games.
What surprises me is that people are shocked that we look like the same team that was coached by Sharp, what people have to remember is Sharp was probably calling the shots but Agar will have done a lot of the day to day coaching. So no wonder much hasn't changed.
IMO the only short term solution is probably for agar to allow more input from J Sharp.
By the way I am not calling for Agar to go, but he needs to look to a more expansive game we are way too predictable.
FCFaithful Stu wrote:I think we have made a great start to the season so don't want to be to critical, but do agree that things have slipped in the last two games.
What surprises me is that people are shocked that we look like the same team that was coached by Sharp, what people have to remember is Sharp was probably calling the shots but Agar will have done a lot of the day to day coaching. So no wonder much hasn't changed.
IMO the only short term solution is probably for agar to allow more input from J Sharp.
By the way I am not calling for Agar to go, but he needs to look to a more expansive game we are way too predictable.
Did I just see "Jon Sharp" and "expansive game" in the same sentence.
There is no surprse that Hudderfield are playing good rugby, they now have a cracking coach.
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