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 Post subject: Re: Don't Panic
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:30 pm 
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Buffalo wrote:As Douglas Adams said. There's a lot of emotive reactions to tonight's game, but I'd just like to give my balanced view. I don't think it fits into any of the existing threads so nerr.

Ref: bloody awful. I thought they were trained that if the ball pops out of the completed tackle it's probably reefed. Not tonight. I was watching the pitch markings and he was retreating 12 not 10. Gave us nothing. Nothing. Amos's try looked perfectly good to me and I was looking down on it. We got nothing tonight. Nothing.

Us: I thought we were mostly good. Muscled well - Hudds' pack is huge and we sized up, made yards, drove them back, hit hard and showed the passion we've been after. Unfortunately we harked back to 2005/6 with suicidal penalties at times, can we not cut these out? Handling errors can be partly forgiven, it was very greasy tonight, but still frustrating. Our defence was solid, even when when some tackles were missed others scrambled well. They made how many breaks?
Going forward I thought we ran good angles, good dummy runners, overall we ran well and showed good hands. Hate to say it but Tomkins cost us two tries tonight - both 3-man overlaps on the right and he went himself. He's a talent but he has plenty to learn.

Hudds: Superb defence. We ran well but Hudds' defence was awesome. No gaps at all. They covered our every option which is why Sam's mistakes when we finally worked a couple of overlaps has cost us. Let's not pretend they're an automatic 2 points any more, this is a good strong side who will turn plenty over.

Overall, bitterly disappointed. The ref caned us but we couldn't turn possession into points - but credit to Hudds' defence for that. Good to see some passion as well.


I completely agree.

I'm extremely disappointed with losing the game last night but things are nowhere near as bad as some are making out.

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 Post subject: Re: Don't Panic
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:16 pm 
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MadDogg wrote:I completely agree.

I'm extremely disappointed with losing the game last night but things are nowhere near as bad as some are making out.

You dont reckon having our worst start to a season in over 20 years, losing at home to cas, wakey, hudds isn't bad.
I mean we beat Salford ffs, bradford who will probably never play that bad again ever, n were lucky to beat quins.
You not wrong its nowhere near as bad as some are making.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:18 pm 
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There is no panic.

You can't win games with poor completion rates like Wigan had last night as you can't build pressure. It wasn't the refs fault we dropped the ball, but it ws his fault for allowing them to slow our play the ball and reduce our momentum.

Either way, if we had a half decent compleion rat we'd have won the game.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:23 pm 
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NickNJ wrote:There is no panic.

You can't win games with poor completion rates like Wigan had last night as you can't build pressure.

Either way, if we had a half decent compleion rat we'd have won the game.


The panic comes from the fact that our completion rate most weeks is poor and does not seem to be improving.

If you could see an improvement in standards then I would agree but Nobby is quickly running out of players to drop to try to improve matters.

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It's true we're up and down, so yes consistancy is a worry.

If we were not competing in games then there would be panic, there are problems but not panic stations.

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Well I'm panicking !

We play Barrow next week............. then saints.

Our defence has been dire against decent opposition, and we might get a 'real caning' to be sure, against saints.

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you got to love it, 1 loss and the "Don't Panic" brigade and the "Keep the faith" Loonies are out in force, heaven help us if we get on the end of a big losing streak.






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 Post subject: don`t panic
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:25 pm 
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I think we will get to the playoffs win a couple of games lose against leeds,end the season on a high,buy players who are pass their sell buy date ,the we will get all the hype that next season will be better than the last,which will boost the sale of season tickets....er sorry hasn`t this happened before

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:40 pm 
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Wigan again suffered from the imbalance of implementation.

For me Wigan had improved in their defensive qualities compared to last weekend against Salford were we let Salford make far too many yards. I thought that Wigan controlled Huddersfield well and kept their forwards at bay and made it harder for them to kick in any advanced positions.

The problem Wigan had however was utlilising this defence and taking advantage of our decent attacking positions. We decided to play the same one-out rugby league which was so predictable it was laughable. Thomas Leuluai, despite having a good game with ball in hand IMO, was shocking with his kicks and it was so obvious but we continued to give him the ball on the last rather than mix things up and give it to Sam or Pat.

When Sam did get the ball he just kicked the grubber down the right and it David Hodgson covered it easily most of the night. We also went down the left thinking 'Ainscough can score so we must be able to get him over at least once tonight' and Hudds covered that part of the field with consummate ease.

Wigan then fell into the old error prone, ill disciplined side of old and despite and absolutely shocking refereeing performance from Phil Bentham never would have won that game.

Brian Noble needs somebody to help him because he seems incapable of improving one aspect of the sides game and continuing the progress of another aspect which has already improved.






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