all true except the bit on your best players

morley for example is very well regarded in australia, and ellis is going the same way.

as youve mentioned your backs are where the problem arises, especially the halves.

your forwards are certainly on par with anything nz or australia can match

campese looked very very good. SoO call up i think.

He was about the only on, that game was way below NRL standards IMO.

I wished Setanta would have shown the Wests V roosters game instead

in hindsight maybe, but you nebver know how a game is going to go.

To be fair they should have been showing both, the useless g!ts.

The difference is bad tipping doesn't get in the way of facts...

The Tigers v Roosters game was a far better match to watch.
It reminded me of a Super League game in the way it was played.
The two refs experiment seems to have changed the way the NRL is played for the better or is it the coaches who have stopped the wrestle tactics. Either way it's a better product for the spectator.

Gareth Ellis was good again without doing anything spectacular, he played the full 80mins. He did go on one long run which preceded the best try of the game for Tuiaki, Benji Marshall produced a superb pass under extreme pressure to get the winger over the line.

not a bad point raised, although i think it would take a lot longer for a half from england to make a mark over here. there are worse halves and 5/8ths running around in the nrl then these 2.

The five drives and a kick are a myth.
If that was the case the game would be predictable as buggery.

If it was 5 hits up the middle and a kick why is that not what is seen at a much higher level like Test or even SOO level?
Predictable play like that should have been easy for England to overcome with their natural "flair"

Manly did not use that theory in the GF last year nor do most teams.
Off your own line maybe.
The Warriors or the Cowboys or Canberra last year?
Burrow is too small, McGuire is inconsistent and neither bring the skill sets required in the NRL for a Half.
They have there own qualities that are more suited to SL.
A kicking game is almost Mandatory for a Half Back in the NRL, Burrow is average in that department.
The ability to set up your backline and pass in either direction at speed is a basic skill of a 5/8 that McGuire has not accomplished.

You really are thick as two short planks - you didn't understand any of that did you. It wasn't about Danny McGuire you two cent piece of pond life it was about players in general and how none of them deserve to be called "speed bumps" by guttless keyboard warriors like you.

Now crawl back under your stone and come back out when you're a man.

As an aside how old are you exactly, my ball park guess would be twelve. I need to know just so as I can find some excuse for you.