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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:20 am 
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christopher wrote:That would be the only chance of him going.

As for Mcguire, i wouldnt put him in the centres TBH he's actually matured into an out and out 6 IMO


to get a spot in the halves for a SL player is a risk many clubs wont chance.

its too important to risk and other than long, theres not many current english players i think they would risk straight away

hed have to start in a less important spot and then work his way up

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Dico wrote:He's way too small for a centre I reckon, especially in the NRL.
Although for some reason i'm sure he played on the Wing a few times when he first came into the Leeds team 5 or 6 years ago, could be really mistaken though.


bench or even 9.

id worry about his defence at 6 in the nrl.

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dally messenger wrote:bench or even 9.

id worry about his defence at 6 in the nrl.


McGuire's defence would not be an issue in the NRL - if you look at some of the 6's running around the NRL defence is not a premium - his defence is on a par with virtually any half back in the NRL.

The issue for me is his speed - he used to be very quick sadly a combination of hernia issues and being bulked up to help his defence has slowed his pace. If what we have seen this season the pace could be an issue.

As for playing FB - not a chance simply not quick enough






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Eccleshill Rhino wrote:McGuire's defence would not be an issue in the NRL - if you look at some of the 6's running around the NRL defence is not a premium - his defence is on a par with virtually any half back in the NRL.

The issue for me is his speed - he used to be very quick sadly a combination of hernia issues and being bulked up to help his defence has slowed his pace. If what we have seen this season the pace could be an issue.

As for playing FB - not a chance simply not quick enough


you mean like mcguire defence in the WCC.

hes a speed bump.

NRL 5/8th make around 30 tackles per game.

when lockyer and inglis moved there they struggled with the extra defensive load.

danny boys defence doesnt inspire me with big foot plus centres and backrowers running at him all game.

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dally messenger wrote:you mean like mcguire defence in the WCC.

hes a speed bump.

NRL 5/8th make around 30 tackles per game.

when lockyer and inglis moved there they struggled with the extra defensive load.

danny boys defence doesnt inspire me with big foot plus centres and backrowers running at him all game.


You obviously don't watch much of Lockyear then - he makes more tackles in bars than he does on the field - I would interested to know the last time Lockyear, Thurston, Barrett, Orford, Marshall ever made 30 tackles in a game - and I don't mean third man in on a tackle!!

2007 season:
Lockyear man 242 tackles in 14 games - average of 17
Thurston averaged 13 a game
Orford averaged 14
Marshall only 7

Once again your pronouncements do don't stand up to the reality of what actually happens.


Whether McGuire has the all round ability to play as a half back in the NRL is debatable - his kicking isn't the best especially his long kick a prerequiste of a half back in the NRL - one thing his defence is as good as any of the above






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Eccleshill Rhino wrote:2007 season:
Lockyear man 242 tackles in 14 games - average of 17
Thurston averaged 13 a game
Orford averaged 14
Marshall only 7


According to Superleague.co.uk McGuire is averaging 17.5 tackles a game.

His defence has improved out of sight in the last few years.

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dally messenger wrote:you mean like mcguire defence in the WCC.

hes a speed bump.

NRL 5/8th make around 30 tackles per game.

when lockyer and inglis moved there they struggled with the extra defensive load.

danny boys defence doesnt inspire me with big foot plus centres and backrowers running at him all game.


Is there no end to your insecurity driven waffle. Your endless attempts to big up the NRL and downgrade SL are becoming quite laughable and pathetic. Calling McGuire a "speed bump" you have hit a new low.

I would have thought even someone as lost in their own stupidity as you couldn't have failed to notice a 20 year old SL Academy player lost his life in a reserve team match making a tackle - was he a "speed bump" or whatever equally dim ocker comment you have in your locker. Was his defence suspect, would NRL training have stopped that? No it wouldn't because they are all brave lads who give their best - end of.

This mythical difference in intensity between the NRL and SL only exists in your prepubescent imagination in my opinion. For most of us the difference is minimal and thus both leagues are watched and admired. Both leagues contain genuinely great players, and which league they decide to play in does not diminish that other than to self justifying fools like you who need constant validation of themselves and their ideals.

Ellis always has been a superb player - playing in the NRL will make him a different player but not a necessarily a better one. Peacock will probably not play in the NRL but that will not diminish him in any way, he like Ellis has already proved himself a great player.

After the last week I myself have a new admiration and respect for all RL players at whatever level. Now please drop your evangelical NRL is the best, SL is poor, my dad is bigger than yours nonsense. Don't bleat that you never mentioned any of this because your endless inferences that SL is soft are all too obvious, just enjoy both and give us all a break.






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Ouchh.. you ruled...
NRL is still a higher intensity week in week out whatever you say.
I agree on almost every other point mind

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christopher wrote:Is Marshall now playing at 7? what about Mcguire at 6 and Marshall at 7 for the tigers?? would they be too similar in style of play or do you reckon it could work?


Unless Benji has had his talent for the game reduced by 90%, then there is no similarity at all. McGuire isn't up to NRL standard. It would be Shaun Edwards all over again, great in a winning team in England, out of his depth in Australia.

Ellis OTOH had a very good game last night and totally outplayed Mason.

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Ken Acker wrote:Ellis OTOH had a very good game last night and totally outplayed Mason.


nice ;)






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