I have to disagree here, Lefty, I would've hoped that the Newlove situation would've taught us that not enough people are doing anything.
The scum that killed Mr Newlove though they were invincable and were no doubt laughing at the fact a lone wolf had stood up to them.
Had another five, maybe ten, of the local residents confronted them, I don't think we'd have seen such a heartbreaking situation. I'm not saying we should roam the streets with a cricket bat on the look out for Hoods and Reebok Classics (as that is the sort of behaviour we are trying to prevent), but if we could try to find some form of meaning in the word 'community' in the 21st century, we'd all be better off.
That's my opinion, of course, and as the cliche goes, they are like Assholes, we've all got one and most are full of turd.

Was in newspaper yesterday that a man had been charged with kidnap as he caught a burglar on his property and when he rung police they said they wouldn't be able to get there for two days! So he kept the person there (unharmed) but still got in trouble. In past the police were never solely relied on to deal with certain issues and long as it's reasonable, it should continue. However both sides needs to act as they should. After typing this i just found the article www.express.co.uk/posts/view/910 ... -a-burglar www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -days.html A bit more detail and perhaps shows them in a worse light but if the police wont do anything then people resort to desperate measures. That's why Station Road now has it's infamy.

Was in newspaper yesterday that a man had been charged with kidnap as he caught a burglar on his property and when he rung police they said they wouldn't be able to get there for two days! So he kept the person there (unharmed) but still got in trouble. In past the police were never solely relied on to deal with certain issues and long as it's reasonable, it should continue. However both sides needs to act as they should. After typing this i just found the article www.express.co.uk/posts/view/910 ... -a-burglar www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -days.html A bit more detail and perhaps shows them in a worse light but if the police wont do anything then people resort to desperate measures. That's why Station Road now has it's infamy.

this is the best way, worked for me but i missed the quite talk out

I would generally agree with this, they are most of the time just looking for a reaction, so even if they get to you don't let them see.

That said, I recently scared off our local chavs (aged 14 - 16 all live within a few houses of us) when they were playing football and I saw their ball bounce off my new car - well I was in a bad mood too start with, after I exploded they haven't been seen playing outside my house since

but if it hadn't been children (and more importantly parents!) I knew I wouldn't have done the same.

You could take all options (without actually beating them up)....

A gang of kids near me were playing on my fence and vandalising the apple trees. I ignored them but equally made a point of making myself visible to them, just so they we aware that they had been seen.

The following day they were back but this time throwing the apples at each other and in the direction of the houses and cars so I went outside and asked them what they were upto. I recieved a bit of backchat, a few smirks and general chavy-esque attitude from them but they cleared off.

Obviously they didn't heed the subtle warning and were back again, this time though they decided to actually throw the apples at the house...... it was a weekend and I was doing a bit of work at the time....I saw my ar$e.

I flew down the stairs and went after the little gits, I caught up with most of them who instantly kacked their pants and told me who the ring leader was. The following morning I received a visit and an apology from the lad who was responsible for throwing the apple at the house.

Several days later I was out training leaving the wife and newborn at home. I received a call saying that the house had been pelted with apples again, she was in tears and the baby had been woken up by it all. Once again I saw my ar$e.

My atttitude to it this time was that I'd given them a chance and now enough was enough. I went round to the lads house, his dad answered - a big fella. I asked if his son was in and if he could ask him why he felt the need to throw apples at my house... The father was mortified at his sons behaviour. I explained the situation and also advised him that I would now be involving the police. A couple of days later I received a visit from the PCSO who assured me that they would visit each and everyone of the kids involved.

This happened about 9 months ago and not been repeated. In fact some of the kids seem to have a bit of respect now in that they are quite polite and pleasant towards my wife and I.

I guess the top and bottom of this is some parents do care about how their kids behave and, in this instance, the police did react to my complaint! The kids also seem to have learnt a lesson...!! Had I completely ignored what was going on the chances are it wouldn't have stopped.

I did a similar thing, informing the police when a group of local CHILDREN ,not even teenagers, were destroying a large tree near our estate.

A course of action I had to take when they kept returing to said tree even when I had warned them off on two seperate occasions.

The matter was eventually handled by the community police who said they would up the patrol time around that area.

Really would should all be able to call on this bloke to sort it..