I think it is too easy to forget what he and Dobson did 2/3 years ago. He had a presence and Dobson the ability to lead us out of trouble.
Relegation was there for us all to see, no method although Noble had started to sort out the defence with players who were "struggling big time" and we had no go forward.
The introduction of Fielden gave us a momentum and confidence and we went on. But for salary cap issues we were the team on the roll that nobody wanted to play. We also had the attitude that Wigan is best again. So don't have too much of a go at Fielden as he always gives 100% and appreciates the crowd.
I used to hate him at Bradford obviously a sign of the players you would like to have, but my most vivid memory is at the City of Manchester Stadium i.e City's ground now where we lst to The Aussies in the last minute and the team were so disappointed which is understandable but SF came round to salute the fans. This was a big gesture and he was absolutely crestfallen but still was the only one to be brave enough to remember the fans.
I don't think he is the player he wasat Bradford and somebody has intimated too good too young but don't wrire him off, my view a 2 year contract with 3rd year option on a competitive salary i.e. one to match what he would get in other places. My logic is that he never coasts and will relax and get confident again. Iwould also make him my "Club Captain" for attitude and resiliance.
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wiganrlforever wrote:Yes but on vastly reduced monies
I agree, but based on his comments he made when signing for us, I think he would be off for the first decent offer that came his way, I hope not, but I think he will.
As said by a few, yes I'd offer him a new deal but on a much lower wage. Lose Coley, and use the cash saved by lower wages and Coley being released to find a decent prop.
I also think he has repaid his current salary by helping keep us up. I know Dobson was instrumental in this too, but imo the impetus that Fielden gave us cannot be underestimated.
I actually think he is a fine prop forward atm. Not an outstanding one as he was at Bradford, but he does a job week in week out.
It's just that under the CC he probably takes up too big a slice
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BOYD2 wrote:Have a look on the Engage superleague stats all the best props metre wise are from Leeds,Stains, Hull,and Huddersfeild take ya pick.
And all from a greater amount of carries - 30% more in some cases. Stats like metres made on their own, do not tell the whole story. Fielden's workrate is reflected in other areas, particularly defensively.
Fielden is yet again one of the top props in terms of tackle busts (2nd highest prop behind Feka), tackles (highest prop), marker tackles (highest prop) and compares ok to the top prop metermakers in the league in terms of metres per carry - Graham (7.2m), Peacock (6.6m), Mason (7.8m), Dowes (7.6m), Morley (8.4m), Fielden (7.1m), Palea'aesina (8.8m)
Selected stats never tell the whole story and granted Wigan have played an extra game that skews it a bit, but in the whole Fielden is doing a solid job for Wigan if not the level expected when signed.
A new contract shouldn't be out of the question if the terms of the deal are significantly reduced from his current one.
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giwildgo wrote:Selected stats never tell the whole story and granted Wigan have played an extra game that skews it a bit.
A new contract shouldn't be out of the question if the terms of the deal are significantly reduced from his current one.
1) Why not work out tackles/game rather than the total to remove the impact of the extra game on stats, as done in average meters made?
2) Is everyone speculating on what contract Fielden is on or does somebody actually know?
NickyKiss wrote:He should definatly be offered one imo.
He may not be the blockbusting prop of old but he still does a very good job and is on a par with the likes of Kylie Leuluai who we're reported to be interested in.
He'll have to take a huge drop in money and rightfully so but if he's willing to i'd keep him for certain.
He's not fit to lace Kylies boots these days. both have taken dramatic steps in different directions.
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