Must have watched a different game. (definately so if you missed the Moa offload!!)

We lose a game and it starts

Was thinking the same on Friday.

Thorman not good enough, Yeaman rubbish etc.

The full 17 were rubbish but i guess they are allowed an off day as long as we go to Quins and perform well.

You expected anything else?

Hoped maybe but not expected

Thorman wasn't on Friday, but I'm not writing him off completely. He was outstanding against Bradford, we just need Friday night to be an exception.

Yeaman has always had an issue with putting his winger in. It doesn't make him a bad player it's just something he needs to fix as it is a relatively simple thing and has the potential to be costly in the big games. It's about time we did see an improvement with it though, it's been noticeable for long enough now.

This is my concern. He's had this issue for the whole of his career, and he's hardly improved at all. That may indicate that he's not capable of further improvement, which in turn would mean that he'll always be a good player rather than a great one.

gave Briscoe a couple of great passes the week before and was 2nd in our assists charts last season.

Does seem to make a few high profile c*ck ups though like Friday. Maybe that skews peoples opinions a bit.

Or that he's comfortable with the fact he won't lose his place over it so has less reason to really work on it. We don't know why, but whatever reason it really needs attention. Completely agree it's the one thing preventing him from being a genuinely top-class player.

Indeed. The benefits of a top class centre can be seen at Saints when a terminally mediocre winger like Gardner can top the try scoring charts. They have a centre that takes the right option 99% of the time and they score a hatful of tries because of it.

Yeaman has all the physical attributes to be a top class centre, but the mental attributes seem to be lacking a little over the past few seasons. If he can put that right, we'll have an excellent player.