Wellens(Hemmings love child) was absolutely awful and you'd be foolish to argue otherwise...

I dont think thier world class either. I have simply argued that the gulf in class is not as big as the last tournament suggested. I just think that those players under-performed and are better than that. Yup there is a gap, its fairly big but not that big.



or how good the aussies are.

At the end of the day they have something like 10 times as many players coming through at each level. This breeds more competition and drives higher standards. Their excellent althetes predominantly want to play RL while ours want to play football.

I'd say our top players are very very good and many like Peacock, Morley, Gleeson, Senior (in his prime), Graham, Roby, Cunningham (in his prime), Ellis, Pryce would hold their own in an NRL club side no problem at all.

I agree, but how many would make the Aussie Test side or even State of Origin??...I think to be honest, its just that NRL is just more intense, and takes more commitment and focus from a player to maintain a certain standard.

Over here, in some weeks, some of the better players can get away with performing at 70 or 80%, whilst over there they wouldn't be able to get away with that.

I think the last bit there really is the nail on the head and I think the big problem is that there aint enough good players here to make enough good teams to create that level of competition.

The solution??? Cut out all the chaff like Celtic, Bradford, Wire

and the other bottom feeders and have a 6 team league

I think you are both right. Due to the numbers coming through/waiting in the wings, the players have to be at their very best every week otherwise they are gone. Eventually it becomes second nature.

Our internationals know they don't have to be at their best every week to get picked.

SC, it's good to see you can debate without being a widge.

come on, lets stop this big love in right now