And Pryce...

Its a poor argument because it says only about those players performances in that tournament rather than how good they are over-all.

Tournament or not they failed miserably when up against the very best i think its a decent argument TBH...Pryce,Wellens and Gardner didn't have a single good game in the world cup...

Conversely, Morley and Peacock (although not poor like the three you named) hardly set the world alight either. We know they are better than that and I'd argue that so too are the three players you named that were rank bad.

Arent you meant to be after him?

your gonna laugh now but I'd take him. I just know that if we signed him he'd start playing ace and it would be funny as .....

Wellens(Hemmings love child) was absolutely awful and you'd be foolish to argue otherwise...

It would be more foolish to think I was arguing otherwise when Im not. I suggest you read my post again.

The sad truth is though as poor as they were - and many others went - they were the best we had. So laugh as much as you like if you think the poor state of our national team is something worth laughing at. Its a shame we are in a position where the bulk of the players have to come from 2 teams because the others aren't good enough to provide any real competition for places.

And as for the Saints Leeds game - fantastic game from a Saints POV. I wasn't impressed with the way Bailey played but haven't watched it back yet so perhaps it was just getting caught in the emotion of the game that made it seem worse. There again, I said at the time I was shocked Gilmour didn't get sin binned.

all the young talent is being poached and converted by union purely because the international set up is more attractive