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Post subject: Opta Query

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:24 pm

tvoc

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One for all you budding stattos out there who (like me) occasionally like to use Opta to highlight a player's input/output:

[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=279&hs2=2009&hp2=2422&stat=tries&season=2009]Can anyone spot the deliberate mistake?
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Easy mistake to make what with Burrow and Kirke looking like two peas in a pod.

How Lauitiiti missed out on a try assist for Hall's first is another mystery.

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:34 pm

JMT

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1-0 to Kirke in the 40/20's! Kirke's one kick in general play seems dubious too.

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:44 pm

The Biffs Back

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JMT wrote:1-0 to Kirke in the 40/20's! Kirke's one kick in general play seems dubious too.

Correcto mundo

"...To those people that wrote this team off...
to all those that criticised this team...
tonight's for you"

Sir Kevin Sinfield

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:30 pm

tvoc

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This week three Leeds players have been given try assists out of the six tries scored.

McGuire for the kick on Donald's try
Burrow for the kick on Hall's second
and
Sinfield for either his pass for Leuluai or Burrow or Peacock as he supplied the final ball to all three.

But Lauitiiti zippo for Hall's first.

I guess Opta can explain WTF is going on but it beats me and you have to wonder whether the rest of what they produce is equally suspect. Bearing in mind that I'm only going off the online stuff here where Bradford are making less errors and missing less tackles that Leeds.

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:47 pm

Fat Boy

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I once enquired with Opta how much a full seasons stats would cost - £1500.

If I’d paid £1500 for stats like those in tvoc link I would have been more than disappointed.

Fat people are harder to kidnap.

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:57 pm

tvoc

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JMT wrote:1-0 to Kirke in the 40/20's! Kirke's one kick in general play seems dubious too.

I can see from my spreadsheet that the Kirke kick in general play occurred V Wigan and given that he left the field semi concussed inside the opening twenty it shouldn't be difficult to find.

Another one over to Opta.

LS16_Rhino wrote:I once enquired with Opta how much a full seasons stats would cost - £1500.

Maybe they supply a £1500 version and what we get to see is the free version.

From here it appears their quality control dept could do with an overhaul.

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:03 pm

Fat Boy

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tvoc wrote:Maybe they supply a £1500 version and what we get to see is the free version.

From here it appears their quality control dept could do with an overhaul.

Fat people are harder to kidnap.

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:10 pm

tvoc

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Scott Donald zero tackles with zero misses yet where was he when his opposite number (Ainscough) crossed unopposed?

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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:38 pm

Harrigan

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tvoc wrote:Scott Donald zero tackles with zero misses yet where was he when his opposite number (Ainscough) crossed unopposed?

In RL&LE this morning it said he made 0 and missed 1

I also noticed that Paul McShane had only made 1 try assist according to the website but I can remember 2 off the top of my head. Hull KR and Celtic.

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:56 am

Gotcha

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tvoc wrote:Scott Donald zero tackles with zero misses yet where was he when his opposite number (Ainscough) crossed unopposed?

Never mind that. What about the shocking attempt down the wing after that, where my 7 year old son would have had the strength to push Ainscough into touch? :wink: