cadoo wrote:I would not play Tim Smith. Is his defense going to get any better just because we have moved him to scrum half? No he will still be a liability. Should we bring back Tim Smith we will have had Smith/Leuluai , O'loughlin/Leuluai , Tomkins/Leuluai, Tomkins/Smith so far this season as our halfback combinations after only six games. How can we form a successful halfback combination when we keep changing it every other week?
I think we need consistency in that department and allow Leuluai and Tomkins to understand each other to gain a bit of cohesion in attack. Notice the 2 most successful teams have not changed their halfback combinations for a number of years - McGuire/Burrow & Pryce/Long. We should be looking to do the same.
Unless Tomkins or Leuluai are injured I don't see a reason to bring back Tim Smith.
so if we dont give him game time (by the way reserves is a lil too easy for him seeing as he made a mockery out of leeds the other night) play him in the first team and keep him covered you gotta give him another chance
kirkamania6 wrote:I don't think Riddell is an impace hooker. I think he is best from the start, controlling the ruck and getting our forwards on the front foot for McIlorum to hopefully carry on
I think Michael McIlorum is more than capable of doing the things you have mentioned above. I don't think either Michael McIlorum or Mark Riddell are "impact hookers". I think only James Roby can offer that.
I just noticed that last season when we started Michael McIlorum for something like 7 weeks and we played a lot better as a team and won I think 6 out of those 7 games. I was just trying to get a bit of impact off the bench as I think Riddell out of the two could have the most impact.
I would be still be happy if we started with Riddell and kept McIlorum on the bench.
Quote:As for Lockers and Joel I just think that Lockers is more suited to 2nd row and Joel is better at loose
I agree but either Nobby doesn't seem to think so or Lockers & Joel feel better suited to their current places in the side.
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Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
Phil Bailey
George Carmont
Shaun Ainscough
Sam Tomkins
Thomas Leuluai
Stuart Fielden
Mark Riddell
Paul Prescott
Joel Tomkins
Gareth Hock
Sean O'Loughlin
Iafeta Paleaasenia
Mike McIllorum
Andy Coley
Harrison Hansen
18th man: Karl Pryce
we need to keep a settled squad to allow the lads to find some rhythm with each other, the only change I would make is letting eamon have a rest, the lad has took so much work over the last month and has definately been our best player so far.
I was tempted to put Pryce in and drop bailey but we missed Phil against Cas, he is a leader and it is evident to see he is one of them players who will give his all, I think Karl will be waiting until we get an injury to be honest.
Legend That Sorts It wrote:so if we dont give him game time (by the way reserves is a lil too easy for him seeing as he made a mockery out of leeds the other night) play him in the first team and keep him covered you gotta give him another chance
Why do we have to give him another chance? Has he earnt it?
I posted a while back that after 7 months out of the game he needs time to recapture his tackling technique because his current technique is awful. He also looked unfit as well to play the full 80 minutes. He kept telling Roberts to come inside and allow Smith to get a breather on the wing.
Unless this has changed he should not be playing.
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cadoo wrote:I think Michael McIlorum is more than capable of doing the things you have mentioned above. I don't think either Michael McIlorum or Mark Riddell are "impact hookers". I think only James Roby can offer that.
I just noticed that last season when we started Michael McIlorum for something like 7 weeks and we played a lot better as a team and won I think 6 out of those 7 games. I was just trying to get a bit of impact off the bench as I think Riddell out of the two could have the most impact.
I would be still be happy if we started with Riddell and kept McIlorum on the bench.
I agree but either Nobby doesn't seem to think so or Lockers & Joel feel better suited to their current places in the side.
Agree to disagree on the hooker situation?
I think the fact both Joel and Sean have gone well at the start of this season is why they are in there current positions
I think the back row is the last of our worries at the moment though
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Newton-Le-willows-Warrior wrote:Pat Richards Amos Roberts Phil Bailey George Carmont Shaun Ainscough
Sam Tomkins Thomas Leuluai
Stuart Fielden Mark Riddell Paul Prescott Joel Tomkins Gareth Hock Sean O'Loughlin
Iafeta Paleaasenia Mike McIllorum Andy Coley Harrison Hansen
18th man: Karl Pryce
we need to keep a settled squad to allow the lads to find some rhythm with each other, the only change I would make is letting eamon have a rest, the lad has took so much work over the last month and has definately been our best player so far.
I was tempted to put Pryce in and drop bailey but we missed Phil against Cas, he is a leader and it is evident to see he is one of them players who will give his all, I think Karl will be waiting until we get an injury to be honest.
Same team for me, cant agree about O'Carroll though, the lads just not big enough, I thought we had brought the mascot on when they packed down, he was dwarfed by the rest of the forwards, full of enthusiasm but that can only take you so far, we need another prop.
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