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Big Dave T wrote:And when they are carrying players like Lovegrove that is stopping their British kids develop it does make him look a little silly doesnt it!!
Though he is playing very well the same principle applies. Lovegrove shouldn't be playing here imo, the rules were stretched to allow it, i didn't agree with it at the time and don't now.
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Gordon Gekko wrote:The key word.
If all clubs adopted that viewpoint it would almost certainly signal the end of England on the International stage. The overseas quota was designed to allow clubs to import top quality overseas players who would enhance the competition and in turn aid the devlopment of British players.
Moa doesn't bring anything to the table what so ever imo, but is taking a great deal away from it. Say he does become top class and goes back to aussie to develop his game further what has that achieved for the British game??
Couple of points...
If Hull were to make a habit of this kind of thing, I might have a concern. As a one-off I think it makes little difference.
Moa was signed when we were looking short on props and there were concerns over our pack size. He's now looking less necessary. Hindsight is great.
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Theres Lovegrove,Gene and Ben McFisher at least are giving youth a chance like Houghton,Burnett,Lee,Hall,Briscoe and G.Horne. 13 out of Hull 17 are English it will be interesting to see over the next two years how certain teams develop as the overseas quota reduces and reduces. To be fair Rovers have got alot of english players who have come through there academy like Cooke ,Wheeldon ,Briscoe ,Fox and Cockayne . At least Moa is coming over at a young age and we havent a people like Menzies who is 35.
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Mrs Barista wrote:Was good to see Yeaman's effort dragging a Hudds player into touch last week The big hits/defensive efforts are often as much a highlight of the match as the tries.
I agree, especially as Hull are getting better at it.
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Kosh wrote:Couple of points...
If Hull were to make a habit of this kind of thing, I might have a concern. As a one-off I think it makes little difference.
Moa was signed when we were looking short on props and there were concerns over our pack size. He's now looking less necessary. Hindsight is great.
Thats a fair enough point actually.
I do remember though how not that long ago people were saying how Maloney would be a great signing and could be a future GB international etc etc, now nobody seem to want to know him.
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Big Dave T wrote:have you seen him play?
This is the point I've been trying to make recently. I'm not for one minute agreeing with GG at this stage, but conversely how on earth have you seen enough in half an hour to be so blindly convinced of Moa's potential?
The entire culture of snap judgements on players amongst many Hull fans is quite frankly laughable IMO.
If Hull were to make a habit of this kind of thing, I might have a concern. As a one-off I think it makes little difference.
Moa was signed when we were looking short on props and there were concerns over our pack size. He's now looking less necessary. Hindsight is great.
I agree with you there however the biggest cheer of the afternoon greeted him onto the pitch and you could just about feel the earth move when he hit Burgess, so as a crowd pleaser and a bit of a side show he is doing fine and a few will come on Friday just to have a look! His contract payment is very small and he is obviously enjoying being here. For me the jury is still out but he has shown more promise in 25 minutes than a certain other project showed in a full season!!
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tbf i can see where gg is coming from, if crocker and lauaki get here we'll have 8 overseas players in the squad.
imo thats to many and hopefully we'll stay inside the rfl restirctions for 2010 and beyond but agar has to assemble the best squad he can and within the rules but if the rfl keep changing the rules what can he do?
he cant take the moral high road because it will cost him his job.
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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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The Dentist Wilf wrote:I agree with you there however the biggest cheer of the afternoon greeted him onto the pitch and you could just about feel the earth move when he hit Burgess, so as a crowd pleaser and a bit of a side show he is doing fine and a few will come on Friday just to have a look! His contract payment is very small and he is obviously enjoying being here. For me the jury is still out but he has shown more promise in 25 minutes than a certain other project showed in a full season!!
We'll see come derby day
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The big hits/defensive efforts are often as much a highlight of the match as the tries.
