Rogues Gallery wrote:This is going to surprise a lot of you on here.
I think Saints will win.
If any of you still have Fridays game on sky+ or dvd or tape watch it again.
Leeds first try, came first from a fortunate 40:20 (the ball took a wicked bounce to the touchline, then Hall loses the ball in the tackle but fortunately it went back, then the pass from Sinfield is very debatable as if it was forward.
Their second try was down to the inexperience of young Ainscough (hopefuly he'll learn)
The third try was never a try, Kirke passes the ball forward and it crosses the 20 metre line, hits the ground before Donald picks it up before passing it on to Burrow who scored.
The referee can't go to the video ref for the forward pass but if the ball goes forward and hits the floor then it's a knock on, which the video ref can give.
Another of the Leeds tries came when Hock lost the ball, except he didn't it was stolen.
Early in the second half Wigan had two tries disallowed, the first one quite rightly for offside, but the second one the Leeds player made the wrong decision and took O'Loughlin who wasn't even moving.
Then Leeds got the benefit of the doubt try when the referee was stood no more that two metres from the players with a clear view. (I don't know if it was or wasn't a try but the ref was in the best position to make the decision)
Saints will not give Leeds the same amount of ball that Wigan did, and they will not that may favourable decisions away from home.
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Rogues Gallery wrote:Saints will not give Leeds the same amount of ball that Wigan did, and they will not that may favourable decisions away from home.
This is the key point for me. I think we are perfectly capable of giving Leeds just as much ball as Wigan did, again based on performances so far. We are not keeping hold of the ball as we did last season, we are not attacking with flair and creativity and we are not kicking well (though to be fair we have been consistently inconsistent in that regard, so that much probably hasn't changed!). Whether this is just early season jitters or new coach phenomenon or too many youngsters all playing at once or a sign of things to come I don't know, but up to now, even though we have won 4 out of 5 (and on paper we look better than this time last year given our losses back then), we just don't look anywhere near the team we were when we are on the pitch.
I hope Potter and the lads pull it out of the bag on Friday, obviously, but I'm just not confident that they will given that there haven't really been any signs of it so far.
Early in the second half Wigan had two tries disallowed, the first one quite rightly for offside, but the second one the Leeds player made the wrong decision and took O'Loughlin who wasn't even moving.
I'm going to agree with you here Ablett,the grapple tackle expert, runs into O'loughlin and immediately sticks up his hands for the penalty. Cheating scum bag.
_nay0r_4_jenny_ wrote:am expecting a fairly low score from saints n leeds, and should be very close thats judging by the F and A for each teams, hardly anything in it at the moment so should be a cracking game, i would say leeds to win though only just woulda said us just if it was at our place
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I think we will play much better this week than we have been doing. Leeds are two comp. points ahead of us - by way of a late penalty against us and losing the match by one point (HKR). If we don't win it is not the end of the world. Last season and the season before Leeds were ahead of us during the season but we still managed to finish above them in the league positions. It is just that this time we need to beat them when it really matters i.e. CC and GF. Looking at Leeds matches so far they are not the team they were last season and the same can be said of us. I still stick with Joynty's saying. 'Never write the Saints off' Come on you Saints we know you CAN do it.
It doesn't matter at all, so either team could have a lax approach to it.
I can see a similar game, and scoreline to last season. However I also feel that if Leeds go a couple of scores up early doors we lack the motivation to keep it close.
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i've just watched the highlights of leeds/wigan and it was more a case of leeds were lucky with the bounce of the ball, and some defensive errors by wigan. They were not a dominant attacking force and it will be very different against the saints away from headingly
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