Post subject: Re: So, remind me again, why must we sign..........
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:18 pm
G1
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 18 2002 Posts: 32302 Location: Swimming against a tide of fekkwittedry
sally cinnamon wrote:When Kevin Penny came through at Warrington a lot of people were complaining that we had signed Chris Hicks, saying why would we need to bring him in when we had a better player coming through the ranks, but now Penny has gone through a sticky patch I'm glad we've got Hicks, it takes the pressure off so now Tony Smith can work with him behind the scenes and bring him back into the side at the right pace rather than exposing him every week.
With the greatest of respect there is nothing Warrington can teach us about assembling a squad.
Quote:Your point looks valid in the context of last night but Leeds will have to beat better sides than Wigan, if they get a couple of injuries in the outside backs and have fresh Academy lads in there then Saints beat you with Gidley and Gardner doing damage, people will come right back on saying we need to sign another NRL outside back.
Not many better sides. Last year Wigan were 3rd. Last year we beat Saints in the GF with the threequarters currently at our disposal. What has changed in the threequarters in the league to make us panic now?
Quote:Not trying to argue against the Leeds approach to bringing talent through, which is a shining beacon for English sport never mind Super League, but it wouldn't do any harm to get one quality NRL back in...Joel Monaghan, Justin Hodges etc.
Like you did with Matt King? That calibre of player?
Quote:Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.
Post subject: Re: So, remind me again, why must we sign..........
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:45 pm
Stirlingshire Saint
Club Coach
Joined: Mar 27 2005 Posts: 6290
G1 wrote:You didn;t think I would let tonight's game given the result and the line-ups go without it having any bearing on our discussion?
If this mystery signing we must make doesn;t come from the NRL where will he come from then?
Gibson and Watkins will most likely face their sternest test next week against a Saints threequarter line with at least 3 of their players fro their Academy.
If our forwards, halves and hookers (or stand in hookers) play like they did tonight then you could throw Mal Menninga and Gene Miles at us and it wouldn't matter.
Gibson and Watkins play down the right hand side dont they?
That would mean them facing Gilmour and Armstrong. In all honesty, I dont see that being much of a test for your youngsters.
getdownmonkeyman wrote:You need to move on from here. SS has replaced you, he gets this debating/conversing lark far, far better.
Post subject: Re: So, remind me again, why must we sign..........
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:15 pm
tvoc
International Board Member
Joined: Mar 05 2003 Posts: 22289
Stirlingshire Saint wrote:So Gibson and Watkins are going to be Leeds' centres next week?
Well they have been in the last two matches.
Stirlingshire Saint wrote:Senior will come back to face Gidley and then someone will face Gilmour down the left.
You may be right, we'll have to wait and see with Senior. I think Leeds are wrapping him in cotton wool and saving him for the tough games, so it depends if St Helens away in the SL Regular Rds falls into that category.
On the evidence of the last two seasons, probably not.
Post subject: Re: So, remind me again, why must we sign..........
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:26 pm
G1
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 18 2002 Posts: 32302 Location: Swimming against a tide of fekkwittedry
Stirlingshire Saint wrote:That would mean them facing Gilmour and Armstrong. In all honesty, I dont see that being much of a test for your youngsters.
Hold the phone.
If Saints and Wigan aren't going to provide a test for our young centres than I am now even more confused as to why our speccies are clamouring for us to sign a centre from the NRL 9or elsewhere).
Quote:Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.
Post subject: Re: So, remind me again, why must we sign..........
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:33 pm
LeedsPokerGuru
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 29 2005 Posts: 1919 Location: professional pokerz
sally cinnamon wrote:Because rugby league is a squad game and Leeds could benefit from the extra depth. Watkins is still only 17 and it wouldn't do any harm to have him as a squad player for a couple of seasons, he would still get a lot of games.
When Kevin Penny came through at Warrington a lot of people were complaining that we had signed Chris Hicks, saying why would we need to bring him in when we had a better player coming through the ranks, but now Penny has gone through a sticky patch I'm glad we've got Hicks, it takes the pressure off so now Tony Smith can work with him behind the scenes and bring him back into the side at the right pace rather than exposing him every week.
Your point looks valid in the context of last night but Leeds will have to beat better sides than Wigan, if they get a couple of injuries in the outside backs and have fresh Academy lads in there then Saints beat you with Gidley and Gardner doing damage, people will come right back on saying we need to sign another NRL outside back.
Not trying to argue against the Leeds approach to bringing talent through, which is a shining beacon for English sport never mind Super League, but it wouldn't do any harm to get one quality NRL back in...Joel Monaghan, Justin Hodges etc.
well said sally. lovely this common sense stuff ain't it.
Likewise to lowes, got put in the seat too early. Now he has a chance to do what Brian McDermott did and learn from a very good coach in Smith.
Development is key stage in any early career and to rush it when you don't have to is needless.
Can anyone remember a Leeds team attacking as deep as they did last night in recent times? To me this is why Burrow and McGuire played so well because they had more room to operate in.
Hollywood Harrigan wrote:Can anyone remember a Leeds team attacking as deep as they did last night in recent times? To me this is why Burrow and McGuire played so well because they had more room to operate in.
Noticed that myself.
Leeds are attacking slightly different to previous years. Evidently coming from much, much deeper.
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