plain and simple. It's irrespective to whether the 40/20 happened and the two calls which you feel were incorrect. Wigan are simply not good enough to beat a quality team that has JJB named as the hooker and with a bench made up of players carrying knocks or coming back from a lengthy period out of the game.

I wasnt saying that

I meant that Leeds' wouldnt of scored that try if the video ref had given us the try

lets face it we as sh!te no other way to put it no point saying we've not had run of the green etc we are sh!te last weekend proved how bad bradford are not how good we were. Get rid of half the team and all the coaching staff the start again cos this lot would struggle against toulouse

the doom and gloomers have arrived

bailey, smith, coley, mathers for starters


easy tiger

Another thing, why was Coley smiling....he has nothing to smile about, we've just been beat, heavily

what you mean doom and gloomers have arrived what positives could any wigan fan take from that. There's no positives back to old ways again

Leeds have a very, very good team. Yeah, we contributed to our own downfall by knocking on every 2 mins, but if those two 40/20's had of come off for Leeds it could of been a different scoreline. They scored off both of them and our heads went down.

A positive would be the response we gave after the half time interval. We came out fired up and matched Leeds. We had 2 try's disallowed, which on another day could of gone for us.

Let me guess. It was Noble's fault the players knocked on, missed the tackles, etc.

Spot on.