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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:51 pm 
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odemwingie wrote:What is this whole thing about away support really?

There are 6 clubs who have the best away support-

Wigan
Leeds
Hull KR
Wire
Saints
Hull FC

The amount the take varies on where the game is, or what night its on.

We take the most to Wire and Saints and have taken more than anyone else to Leeds and Bradford over the last 2 years, we also filled the away end at Hull FC in the play-offs 2 years ago.

Hull KR will take more to the clubs closest to them, and mainly because the fans get excited when they win a game because the expectations are low.

Credit to Wire fans as they underachieve every season but still turn up.

Leeds are good around yorkshire, but average anywhere else.

Saints bring quite afew to our place and Wire and decent in Yorkshire.

Hull FC pretty much the same as Hull KR but higher expectations maybe.


Form, place, time and climate should all be taken into consideration.


And one last thing, who gives a tosss, we should care about the rugby and everyone should care about the home crowds, as that is what will take the game forward.


I would add this into it, more than anything else : Performance.

Wire (struggling at the bottom of the league) travel to play JJB - Following 1500ish, Wire (winning team, near top of league) bring 3500+

Same goes for all teams really.

Put Stains in our position over the last few years and they would only fill 2/3rds of the North, even on Good Friday's.






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odemwingie wrote:What is this whole thing about away support really?

There are 6 clubs who have the best away support-

Wigan
Leeds
Hull KR
Wire
Saints
Hull FC

The amount the take varies on where the game is, or what night its on.

We take the most to Wire and Saints and have taken more than anyone else to Leeds and Bradford over the last 2 years, we also filled the away end at Hull FC in the play-offs 2 years ago.

Hull KR will take more to the clubs closest to them, and mainly because the fans get excited when they win a game because the expectations are low.

Credit to Wire fans as they underachieve every season but still turn up.

Leeds are good around yorkshire, but average anywhere else.

Saints bring quite afew to our place and Wire and decent in Yorkshire.

Hull FC pretty much the same as Hull KR but higher expectations maybe.


Form, place, time and climate should all be taken into consideration.


And one last thing, who gives a tosss, we should care about the rugby and everyone should care about the home crowds, as that is what will take the game forward.


:lol: :lol:

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MattyB wrote:I would add this into it, more than anything else : Performance.

Wire (struggling at the bottom of the league) travel to play JJB - Following 1500ish, Wire (winning team, near top of league) bring 3500+

Same goes for all teams really.

Put Stains in our position over the last few years and they would only fill 2/3rds of the North, even on Good Friday's.


Performance, form, same thing init really?






Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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MattyB wrote:I would add this into it, more than anything else : Performance.

Wire (struggling at the bottom of the league) travel to play JJB - Following 1500ish, Wire (winning team, near top of league) bring 3500+

Same goes for all teams really.

Put Stains in our position over the last few years and they would only fill 2/3rds of the North, even on Good Friday's.


The tides will turn my friend.

It would be great if we were the top team along with saints, like saints and leeds are now.

Saints would bring more than filling just 2/3rds of the north stand, they brought more than that for the last friendly we had on boxing day at the JJB.






Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
-
sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
-
Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
-
the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
-
Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
-
Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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FIOS

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odemwingie wrote:Performance, form, same thing init really?


Oh yeah. missed it. :lol:






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odemwingie wrote:The tides will turn my friend.

It would be great if we were the top team along with saints, like saints and leeds are now.

Saints would bring more than filling just 2/3rds of the north stand, they brought more than that for the last friendly we had on boxing day at the JJB.


Yeah but they have had constant success for 12 years.
Put them in the bottom four for a few years and watch them scatter like rats!!






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MattyB wrote:Yeah but they have had constant success for 12 years.
Put them in the bottom four for a few years and watch them scatter like rats!!


Hmmm not so sure, Im glad our fans have not stopped going.

I rekon if we were where saints have been for the last few years we would be getting 18,000 home fans every game.

I do fear though that if we do not win anything for another few years our amount of season ticket holders will go down to around 7000. We need to take our chance in the challenge cup this year to make sure we dont loose anymore fans from the gates.

IL says he wants average over 20,000 though and really what has he done about it. He should be giving free tickets to all schools fro games against Leeds and Hull FC.






Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
-
sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
-
Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
-
the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
-
Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
-
Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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odemwingie wrote:Hmmm not so sure, Im glad our fans have not stopped going.

I rekon if we were where saints have been for the last few years we would be getting 18,000 home fans every game.

I do fear though that if we do not win anything for another few years our amount of season ticket holders will go down to around 7000. We need to take our chance in the challenge cup this year to make sure we dont loose anymore fans from the gates.

IL says he wants average over 20,000 though and really what has he done about it. He should be giving free tickets to all schools fro games against Leeds and Hull FC.


Indeed. My 2 kids go to Judes, but you know they have not had Wigan RL tickets in the 3 years they have been going (even though its supposedly a Rugby School). Had to throw an enormous amount of blue tickets away though. :?






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