Bailey playing in the centre backed up Tomkins excellently, it gave Sam the confidence to attack his defence and move forward with confidence knowing that Bailey provided back up.
Had Goulding been their, it may have been different with Morrison attacking that side of the park.
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jonh wrote::lol: sorry for posting a valid response to yours filled with analysis and reason, how silly of me.
I would also like to see where i "rubished" it, i simply said that under the systems we were employing i did not think it would work, seems to me until we changed this system it did not. My issue was with allowing defenders time and space to run at him, when they have on several occasions including against Quins he looked totally lost, against Bradford we cut down the space and it worked well, so again rather than trying to use it to have a pop, you actually prove my concerns were well founded. Thanks
Youve lost the plot man!
You said Bailey could no longer play centre yet now your trying to twist it to an argument about the defensive structure.
I really do wish you would become head coach of Wigan Jonh because you dont half talk a cracking game and youve already told us you know more than Noble.
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Red Hot Jalapeno wrote:Youve lost the plot man!
You said Bailey could no longer play centre yet now your trying to twist it to an argument about the defensive structure.
I really do wish you would become head coach of Wigan Jonh because you dont half talk a cracking game and youve already told us you know more than Noble.
Go back over my post, again and read what is there re Bailey, i think his defence out wide has been poor thus far, which is compounded by the poor defence structure, its all there for you in black and white.
Or are you saying his defence this season has been good in games other than the Bradford one?
Again the only person claiming that i know more than Noble seems to be you, i think your bitterness is compounding your ability to reason.
You are unable to respond to a reasoned argument just respond with silly statements.
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jonh wrote:Go back over my post, again and read what is there re Bailey, i think his defence out wide has been poor thus far, which is compounded by the poor defence structure, its all there for you in black and white.
Or are you saying his defence this season has been good in games other than the Bradford one?
Again the only person claiming that i know more than Noble seems to be you, i think your bitterness is compounding your ability to reason.
You are unable to respond to a reasoned argument just respond with silly statements.
Baileys defence has been poor? So has everyones at one point or another up until the Bradford game!
You have claimed in the past that you could do a better job than Noble on more than one occasion when you have been ranting about how poor a coach he is. You claimed the reason he won things with Bradford was down to pure luck!
And you have the cheek to say im coming out with silly statements!
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Red Hot Jalapeno wrote:Baileys defence has been poor? So has everyones at one point or another up until the Bradford game!
You have claimed in the past that you could do a better job than Noble on more than one occasion when you have been ranting about how poor a coach he is. You claimed the reason he won things with Bradford was down to pure luck!
And you have the cheek to say im coming out with silly statements!
What has other peoples defence got to do with Bailey's? As i stated on several occasioni think the systems we used were a major contributor to his weaknesses.
I predicted the Cas and Quins backs would hurt us, especially Shenton in the Cas game, did i come on screaming i told you so, no clearly as i am not an egomaniac.
Nor did i see fit to run home from the game to post bitter nonsense.
The bit in bold is a total falicy but then again i expect nothing less when you are struggling to back your stance.
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jonh wrote:What has other peoples defence got to do with Bailey's? As i stated on several occasioni think the systems we used were a major contributor to his weaknesses.
I predicted the Cas and Quins backs would hurt us, especially Shenton in the Cas game, did i come on screaming i told you so, no clearly as i am not an egomaniac.
Nor did i see fit to run home from the game to post bitter nonsense.
The bit in bold is a total falicy but then again i expect nothing less when you are struggling to back your stance.
Jonh, give me time,i shall bring back some old posts of yours re. Noble should i? We will then see what is a total falicy. Just give me time to route them out.
And rightly Goulding was removed. Bailey is not a long term solution to the centre spot, but this season, until Pryce can get fit at least, he is the safest and most sensible option.
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AJ wrote:And rightly Goulding was removed. Bailey is not a long term solution to the centre spot, but this season, until Pryce can get fit at least, he is the safest and most sensible option.
No you are wrong i am Jonh super coach and Bailey would be a disaster in the centre he is too slow and has aged badly since he last played there!
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Red Hot Jalapeno wrote:No you are wrong i am Jonh super coach and Bailey would be a disaster in the centre he is too slow and has aged badly since he last played there!
I questioned his ability to deffend there given what i and everyone else had seen with there own 2 eyes prior to the Bulls game, i also stated that the systems in defence we used were not helping this, systems which have now changed, or at least did for the second half of the Quins game and the Bradford game, something you completly choose to ignore, as it does not fit with your petty name calling.
I look forward to the quotes where i stated I was a better coach than Noble, and his success at Bradford was purely down to luck by the way.
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