jonh wrote:Proof if ever you are clutching at straws given the fact we played expansive rugby at times last season and this.
If you are happy fair play, i am not. If you are unable to criticise errors it seems to me you are too quick to praise.
I love the way the consistency "issue" is brushed under the carpet by the way!
I don't know why your bothering mate. Don’t you know Noble has proven tonight after one win he's the greatest coach there is in the world today and in fact he's the greatest coach that has ever lived. Don't let things like the Cas/Wakey games or terrible inconsistent performances over the past two seasons get in the way of the blind love for old rubber lips.
Can we also add the fact that Ainscough was our FIFTH choice winger at the start of the season to the list of things that are being brushed under the carpet. We’ve been lucky that Noble had his hand FORCED, yes FORCED, with this one as it’s very unlikely we would have seen him at any point this season if noble’s other four picks before him hadn’t been injured/unfit.
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thepriestman85 wrote:I don't know why your bothering mate. Don’t you know Noble has proven tonight after one win he's the greatest coach there is in the world today and in fact he's the greatest coach that has ever lived. Don't let things like the Cas/Wakey games or terrible inconsistent performances over the past two seasons get in the way of the blind love for old rubber lips.
Can we also add the fact that Ainscough was our FIFTH choice winger at the start of the season to the list of things that are being brushed under the carpet. We’ve been lucky that Noble had his hand FORCED, yes FORCED, with this one as it’s very unlikely we would have seen him at any point this season if noble’s other four picks before him hadn’t been injured/unfit.
Again does it matter that he was fifth pick winger? Does it balls he got his chance through injury or suspension like most young players get their fhance and took it. Nobby has kept him in the team on merit like he said he would with players and you still find fault, just give it a rest and bask in the glory of a good win instead of trying to find fault with nobby at any opportunity
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The Jolly Ginger Giant wrote:Again does it matter that he was fifth pick winger? Does it balls he got his chance through injury or suspension like most young players get their fhance and took it. Nobby has kept him in the team on merit like he said he would with players and you still find fault, just give it a rest and bask in the glory of a good win instead of trying to find fault with nobby at any opportunity
Think the nature of this thread negates the initial posters thoughts on doing this.
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jonh wrote:Proof if ever you are clutching at straws given the fact we played expansive rugby at times last season and this.
You have banged on for years that Noble cant coach expansive rugby yet now your saying we played it last year. Wasnt Noble the coach then?
jonh wrote: If you are happy fair play, i am not.
LOL, i wouldnt expect you are a happy chap! After all youve spent many hours of your life trying to convince everybody Noble has no idea how to coach, you could do a better job and all his past achievements at Bradford where down to luck!
jonh wrote: If you are unable to criticise errors it seems to me you are too quick to praise.
I can criticise errors infact thats what this post is all about,the errors that you have made regarding Nobles coaching ability.
jonh wrote:I love the way the consistency "issue" is brushed under the carpet by the way!
How the hell is consistancy the job of the coach? Consistancy mainly lies on the shoulders of the players not the coach unless you are going to give us a special jonh in depth analysis of how you coach consistancy?
thepriestman85 wrote:I don't know why your bothering mate. Don’t you know Noble has proven tonight after one win he's the greatest coach there is in the world today and in fact he's the greatest coach that has ever lived. Don't let things like the Cas/Wakey games or terrible inconsistent performances over the past two seasons get in the way of the blind love for old rubber lips.
Can we also add the fact that Ainscough was our FIFTH choice winger at the start of the season to the list of things that are being brushed under the carpet. We’ve been lucky that Noble had his hand FORCED, yes FORCED, with this one as it’s very unlikely we would have seen him at any point this season if noble’s other four picks before him hadn’t been injured/unfit.
Complete and utter rubbish.
So what Ainscough was 5th choice winger? He got his chance through injuries correct, but don't all young players? Or is this just another piece of garbage to beat Noble with?
He took his chance, and he proved himself, that is why he's still in the team. Same for Sam Tomkins.
Before you say they'll both be dropped next week, if that were the case Tomkins would of been dropped for Smith tonight and Ainscough for Pryce.
Your chatting utter shiite. Instead of being happy with a fantastic win, your hell-bent on ridiculing Noble. Get a f*cking grip.
So what Ainscough was 5th choice winger? He got his chance through injuries correct, but don't all young players? Or is this just another piece of garbage to beat Noble with?
He took his chance, and he proved himself, that is why he's still in the team. Same for Sam Tomkins.
Before you say they'll both be dropped next week, if that were the case Tomkins would of been dropped for Smith tonight and Ainscough for Pryce.
Your chatting utter shiite. Instead of being happy with a fantastic win, your hell-bent on ridiculing Noble. Get a f*cking grip.
Well done you've absolutely managed to miss the point in more than one way.
Before going off on one and taking my post completely out of context look at the previous posts. Brett Kenny asked 'how Noble was forced to pick anyone?' apparently it was all Nobles choice to pick and use these young lads according to him and nobody forced him to do anything. Which was totally wrong as Noble was FORCED to pick Ainscough as he had no other options. I’m not saying he hasn’t done well to keep him in the squad but to claim Ainscough was in the team due to anything other than luck is plain stupid. If Noble was as good as half the people say he is he would have put Ainscough over Phelps for the pre season and Wakefield games.
Secondly I am happy with the win last night and I’ve made plenty of other positive comments on the threads about the teams performances. This thread just beggars belief and show’s how easily pleased some fans are and I can’t see anyone being positive in it. All is forgotten in regards to the three bad previous performances and a scrappy win. We’ve done Fook all yet.
All I am saying is Noble will have answered a lot of the doubts and criticisms about his coaching abilities when we perform like we did last night over a good period of time and against the lesser teams. BTW consistency is down to coach as much as the players he has to make sure the team is ready for the match and has a plan B when things go wrong. We showed we can play attacking rugby tonight so hopefully it will continue and kick on from here.
Can’t wait to see some one not actually read my post now and go off on one.
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thepriestman85 wrote:Well done you've absolutely managed to miss the point in more than one way.
Before going off on one and taking my post completely out of context look at the previous posts. Brett Kenny asked 'how Noble was forced to pick anyone?' apparently it was all Nobles choice to pick and use these young lads according to him and nobody forced him to do anything. Which was totally wrong as Noble was FORCED to pick Ainscough as he had no other options. I’m not saying he hasn’t done well to keep him in the squad but to claim Ainscough was in the team due to anything other than luck is plain stupid. If Noble was as good as half the people say he is he would have put Ainscough over Phelps for the pre season and Wakefield games.
Secondly I am happy with the win last night and I’ve made plenty of other positive comments on the threads about the teams performances. This thread just beggars belief and show’s how easily pleased some fans are and I can’t see anyone being positive in it. All is forgotten in regards to the three bad previous performances and a scrappy win. We’ve done Fook all yet.
All I am saying is Noble will have answered a lot of the doubts and criticisms about his coaching abilities when we perform like we did last night over a good period of time and against the lesser teams. BTW consistency is down to coach as much as the players he has to make sure the team is ready for the match and has a plan B when things go wrong. We showed we can play attacking rugby tonight so hopefully it will continue and kick on from here.
Can’t wait to see some one not actually read my post now and go off on one.
I didn't miss your point at all, you stated Noble was FORCED to keep him in the team and then you strongly imply he is FORCED to keep him in the team.
Ainscough got his chance due to injuries, no doubt whatsoever, as did Sam. Noble is I agree, FORCED to keep them in the team because they are playing fantastic. On the same token he is forced to keep Smith, Mathers etc out of the team because they are playing awfully. You interpreted it differently to me.
I can't quite believe this argument is still raging on, it's over-run it's course now.
100% Warrior wrote:I didn't miss your point at all, you stated Noble was FORCED to keep him in the team and then you strongly imply he is FORCED to keep him in the team. Ainscough got his chance due to injuries, no doubt whatsoever, as did Sam. Noble is I agree, FORCED to keep them in the team because they are playing fantastic. On the same token he is forced to keep Smith, Mathers etc out of the team because they are playing awfully. You interpreted it differently to me.
I can't quite believe this argument is still raging on, it's over-run it's course now.
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