Yes I think something has to change at Odsal, sadly. The positivity and feel good factor that surrounded the whole club from 1996 until a couple of years ago appears to be draining away.

Steve is a lovely fella, but sadly he's not coming up with the goods despite being given a fair crack of the whip.

Calm down dear, it's just a bit of banter about a song that Wigan fans sing

The greatest club side ever was the Dragons sides of the 60's.


Just because a professional Wigan/GB outfit won a lot against amateur sides means very little.


As for their current predicament, they have been run by morons for a long time.


They have had terrible coaches.

Their junior development is dead, stone cold ****ing dead.

Their player recruitment is hopeless.


In fact, outside of the fact they have pretty much an open check book, everything else about the way the club is run is rotten to the core.


They are the London Broncos with money.

Talking as a Wire... How many times have Wigan been relegated from a division?

You are one boring mo fo. Every friggin' day on here - jeez you must hate the game over there to be "over here" so much.

Erm League Freak, haven't you heard that Wigan got taken over as a club about 18 months ago?

I despise Wigan as much as the next guy but jeeesus that's crap you're spouting.
They weren't full time for long before everyone else, in fact i'm sure I read somewhere Leeds were actually the first fully pro club.
Their youth development has been pretty good throughout the last ten years, granted they've let most of their talent go but you only have to look around Huddersfield; sorry Super League to see the talent they've produced.
Add to that they've had a different owner for about a year now.

1. Yes you're right both Wigan and Leeds where Full time clubs with a few ither teams having one or two players that where full time. However does that sound like good competition to you ?

2. Name me one world class player that Wigan have produced in the last 5 years ?

Not necessarily world class but they've produced some good players across the league.
Their development is Certainly not 'stone cold dead'.

well before my time so not going to comment



current board have been in charge for around 18 months



shaun ainscough, sam tomkins, paul prescott, eamonn o'carrol, gareth hock, sean o'loughlin, darrell goulding, joel tomkins, michael mcilorum have all come through the ranks and often start in the first team harrison hansen.
the list of players that have come through the wigan academies and now play for other teams around the uk.