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Yep - At the end of the day, it sends a message to the Aussies - If you commit a crime in Australia, get banned from the NRL, don't just expect to be allowed to play here. Simple as that. :?

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Cruncher wrote:This question has been raised before and there's no definitive answer as yet. Feka has a child over here, so in a sane world that would go in his favour. But the incredibly picky attitude adopted by the visa people at this moment suggests that any outcome is possible.

To me, this entire business beggars belief. Sportsmen with minor convictions can't get visas to work over here for a relatively brief time, yet our inner cities seem to be overrun with pimps and gangsters from Eastern Europe, who are all living here permanently and cheerfully setting up major league criminal networks.

I'm sure it's not quite as simple as that, but from the POV of the ordinary man in the street it's completely unexplainable.
Garry Green who had his visa refused had lived over here for 3 years had his kids here and has his own business so don't be so sure.






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the inquisitor wrote:Garry Green who had his visa refused had lived over here for 3 years had his kids here and has his own business so don't be so sure.



Feka's child is English-born I think.






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Orrell Lad wrote:Feka's child is English-born I think.
Wouldn't make a difference.






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The French & British authorities have different rules for granting visas, the French being less strict.
Wigan have certainly benefited from this.
Michael Dobson was granted a working visa to play in France but would not have been granted a British one as he hadn't played enough first team games in the NRL.
However, because he had been granted a visa to work in an EU country, and did work for Catalans, he was entitled to work in any EU country.
So he played for Wigan with a visa he would never have gained from the British authorities.

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Father Ted wrote:The French & British authorities have different rules for granting visas, the French being less strict.
Wigan have certainly benefited from this.
Michael Dobson was granted a working visa to play in France but would not have been granted a British one as he hadn't played enough first team games in the NRL.
However, because he had been granted a visa to work in an EU country, and did work for Catalans, he was entitled to work in any EU country.
So he played for Wigan with a visa he would never have gained from the British authorities.


Just because the French grant an Aussie a visa to work there does not mean an Aussie can automatically work here! Where have you got that idea from? We do have restrictions on foreign nationals working here that can not be got around by spending six months grape picking in France or by playing a few games of RL. They amount to the same thing and clearly neither is how it is.

For an Ausssie to play here they need two things. They need to be eligible to play here by RFL rules and they need to be granted a working visa by the UK government not the French or any other EU governemt.

If they are not eligible to play here by RFL rules they won't get a visa.

To be eligible to play here the RFL have rules that say a player must have played a certain number of 1st grade games in recent history. Bird qualifies on that score but if I recall correctly Dobson did not.

However in Dobson's case he then played 1st grade games for Les Cats and so racked up 1st grade appearances.

What you can conclude is the French RL authorities do not have the same requirements on imported players to have played 1st grade as the RFL do (hence Dobson got a job with Les Cats) and once a player has played enough 1st grade games (as Dobson did with Les Cats) then our RFL will say he is eligible to play regardless of where he played those games. It is stupid given Dobson played his games in SL but that ia the way it seems to be.

Anyway regardless of all that what Dobsons convoluted route to Wigan has to do with Bird I don't know because the reason Bird was refused a visa was nothing to do with his qualifications as an RL player.

The fact the French have let him in and our government did not poses an interesting question as what happens when he turns up on our shores. The fact he has got job with Les Cat's should have nothing to do with it.

He should IMO be refused entry otherwise Bradford should be up in arms.

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FORMER NRL star Greg Bird was "the victim" when he allegedly assaulted a young woman in a Cronulla nightclub, Sutherland Local Court heard yesterday.

The 25-year-old, who on Thursday flew in from France where he is playing for the Catalans rugby league team, had his one common assault charge upgraded to five charges but believes the evidence of three security guards and security video will clear him.

"Three security officers are able not only to give evidence, but to give evidence to the effect that he was the victim in this matter," his solicitor Patrick Conaghan told the court.

:wink: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 21,00.html
FORMER NRL star Greg Bird was "the victim" when he allegedly assaulted a young woman in a Cronulla nightclub, Sutherland Local Court heard yesterday.

The 25-year-old, who on Thursday flew in from France where he is playing for the Catalans rugby league team, had his one common assault charge upgraded to five charges but believes the evidence of three security guards and security video will clear him.

"Three security officers are able not only to give evidence, but to give evidence to the effect that he was the victim in this matter," his solicitor Patrick Conaghan told the court.

:wink: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 21,00.html






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