Adeybull wrote:So you acknowledge you lost the argument? I'm just taking you on at your own game sunshine, and by the looks of things landed a few telling blows. Its not my fault if you don't like getting a taste of your own approach thrown back at you. I doubt you'd like to hear what various people I talk to at the ground think of your attitude. Not your opinions, note; your attitude.
As for message board nobodies that no-one cares about - the big difference is that I don't actually want (or need) to be a "message board somebody". I'd hardly have kept clear of this (and any other) board for nearly a year otherwise, would I? I came back, for now anyway, because I was asked - by several people.
Really? In fact, I brought the fact that you don't go to the games to demonstrate that you cannot be as informed as someone who does.
It would normally be nobody's business whether you went to games or not; you don't have to go to games (any or every) to be a supporter and to hold whatever opinion you want, and to express that opinion - within reason. However, when "supporter" has morphed into what you have become - with your incessant negative barrage against pretty well everything to do with the club, its coaching staff and most of its players - while still calling yourself a supporter - then people would at least expect you to be as well informed as you could be?
And I'm not sure how most observers would believe a keyboard warrior from afar can be sufficiently-well informed to be able to express such seemingly immovable and entrenched opinions with sufficient credibility.
af is in a similar situation, as you keep pointing out now you are getting upset at perceived difference in treatment (although I think you'll find he is nevertheless better informed than you are, but that's not central to the issue). The difference is in the way that af expresses his opinions, and how (unless driven to it by extreme frustration) he does not try to ram them down everyone's throats at every available opportunity.
There comes a point where constructive criticism, and even criticism borne out of frustration (and God knows we can all relate to that, and may well feel more of the same by the end of the weekend!) crosses a line and becomes an obsession; when it becomes an end in itself. That is where it seems to me that you are at now
And that is why I urge you to think about why you started posting on here - it was because you were a supporter, right? Its very unhealthy if all the supporters toe the club line; but if you are going to constantly criticise everything without ever allowing that there may be reasons for why things are as they are, then that's surely equally unhealthy?
I apologise to the board in general for all this argument. I have said my piece now and you won't get this again - life's too bloody short. I've tried over recent months to deal with this through the PM system, but without success.
Anyway...
Exactly! THIS is surely what we should be talking about, rather than fighting amongst ourselves? Anyway, this from the T&A:
"In-form Burgess limped off against Huddersfield to give fans more reason for concern but he soon returned to the fray and will be fine for the crucial trip."
Hopefully this will be the case, and good news therefore!
Good to see you back Adey.
I'm not going to point the finger at anyone but the start of this thread is a prime example of why a lot of people just don't bother even looking at the Forum anymore. If its not get rid of this player, its isn't this player useless or sack Macca or other equally depressing reading and as I say a lot of people have just given up.
I can honestly say I post more on the boards for other Clubs than I do on RAB as I've gone from being a poster to more of a lurker here mainly because the whole forum is becoming a bit of an in joke to a lot of people both on RL Fans and off it and to be honest who would want to be associated with that? We're getting a reputation for being the most depressing and miserable boards on the RL Fans network.
This is just my opinion though and I've said my piece now so I'll go back to lurking.
But with regards to this weekend, we will be playing our third game of the season against Wigan and as I said rather than looking for excuses why we have not won when we haven't even played the game what's wrong with a bit of optimism. I'll be at the JJB with hope in my heart anyway, who can say this wont be the start of winning ways for the rest of the season?