Its a good job you wasn't a Northern fan, You'd have been well at home writing for the steam pig fanzine

I remember that! ACE!

Anyone still got the <predominantly white> Steam Pig teeshirt?

Sorry Adey but I thinks that's a little unfair and just basing that on poster's you know. I know for a fact that their is 4 posters who hardly ever post mainly because of the attitude of 5 well known posters who definitely can't be classed at the NT gang.

Fair call, although I was responding to personal comments aimed at me. Although in fairness I don't see or talk regularly to any posters from the NT, so I really can only go on those I do know. I DO bump into people I know who are of that persuasion, and I respect their views, but I don't know whether they post on here or read on here - the latter at least must be probable.

But I think what you say leads to an important point - and its one that someone else alluded to on another thread earlier. What I think we have seen is a polarising of opinion on here of those who are concerned for and about the club - and in the main who are passionate supporters (even if they don't think they are... ). This inevitably pushes people to take more extreme positions than they otherwise might - ME, FA, af being good examples - and so increases the likelihood of group A getting right up the noses of group B. And it becomes increasingly hard to sit in the middle in group C! If that makes sense?

I guess that's sort of inevitable when people get frustrated with what they see as below-expectations performance on the park. The situation is not helped by the Punisher-types, whose object in life seems to be to sow discord and dissent wherever they tread and exacerbate the polarisation. After all, its much easier to attack a house divided?

Given that we are nearly all Bulls fans - one or two have come out of the closet and admitted they never were - then surely, in what are not the easiest of times for the club, we need to stand together a bit more? And if that means those at each of the poles cutting those at the other a little more slack, and reigning back on trying to grind the other down, that would be a sensible thing?

Sad news, but did no-one tell them of the OTT attention seeking procedure they were supposed to follow?

Five eh? If that's true it's a shame. The whole point of an internet forum is an exchange of views. If people are witholding their views because they are worried about what people will say about them, maybe they should rethink whether their views are all that well-thought out in the first place. I notice that the de facto message board that is made up of comments on Bulls stories on the T&A site sees people get away with garbage such as 'Hood should walk away if we don't win silverware this year'. Now that would get jumped all over on here and rightly so. On the other hand, there's Adeybull's point about the arguments p.ssing people off. Well, that's fair enough, but the board is what people post. If you'd rather talk about non-contentious stuff we can all enjoy such as nostalgic stuff or discussion of prospects or players that are going well then post a message and often other people will contribute. I'll have a dig now.

Five eh? If that's true it's a shame. The whole point of an internet forum is an exchange of views. If people are witholding their views because they are worried about what people will say about them, maybe they should rethink whether their views are all that well-thought out in the first place. I notice that the de facto message board that is made up of comments on Bulls stories on the T&A site sees people get away with garbage such as 'Hood should walk away if we don't win silverware this year'. Now that would get jumped all over on here and rightly so. On the other hand, there's Adeybull's point about the arguments p.ssing people off. Well, that's fair enough, but the board is what people post. If you'd rather talk about non-contentious stuff we can all enjoy such as nostalgic stuff or discussion of prospects or players that are going well then post a message and often other people will contribute. I'll have a dig now.

Yes, however that final resting place they call the "rag-bag" is close at hand

My Dad still owns something like I think.

I don't understand your gripe with Asim - maybe he is negative but usually his points are well argued. ME used to be more like this but I think the long debates with af and FA have turned the debate into a personal crusade for him to be proven right, losing sight of the bigger picture. It is a shame ME didn't stick to making judgements about McNamara until 10 games and wipe the slate clean as he promised - it would show he can 'change the record' and give him added ammunition if the situation is as dire (as he predicts?) after said 10 games.



Jeez - getting this wound up over what someone says on a MB, often with good reason? I would think about changing seats if I were you.