Went 2 years ago mate and didn't like the way the local plod were putting themselves about.

Anyway, it seems my point about how slow Saint's back 3 are went totally over a lot of people's heads when to me it seemed totally obvious.

It's a total embarressment to English Rugby League fans that Gardner & Wellens were even on the plane to Oz for the world cup.

God help Saints when Gidley, Cunningham & Long retire, Leeds are the model to follow if we are to have long term success IMO....

I'll be getting a job sat next to Alan Hansen on MOTD. You don't win nothing with kids you know.

Saints had 9 academy products in their 17 last night, that doesnt include someone like Long who came from Wigan yet has been at Saints what feels like forever!

Leeds I think had 12/13 in their 17 last week which is amazing to think they still looked a pretty classy outfit! Just shows it can be done but it takes time.

In comparison I think Rovers only have Kris Welham as I'Anson was trained at Leeds and Netherton was brought through at Hull. I know with championship winning sides you get purses to be able to put money into your youth set ups however it is something Rovers need to address only problem is it cant be done overnight.

Netherton was brought through at Leeds and Welham was on Hull's acadamy books.

You'll find Welham was on Hulls Scholarship but has been at Rovers since he was about 16 if i'm not mistaken, so has come through our youth structure not Hulls.

Didnt realise Netherton came through Leeds academy sorry!

Welham played in Hulls U-18 side on a number of occasions, he also had a spell at Doncaster before he signed for Rovers. So i think he would have been older than 16 when he first signed for Rovers.

Much as i rate Welham, i don't think Rovers can claim he is solely a product of their acadamy structure.