Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29793 Location: West Yorkshire
Kosh wrote:Ah right.
Byrne's missed 1 in 5 tackles. Tony missed 1 in 6 last season.
Byrne's made one 'error' per game. Tony made one every two games.
Which one was defensively dodgy again?
Just for completeness, Hall missed 1 in 4 tackles last season and made 1.4 errors per game. This is why it's not a "no-brainer" for Agar to include him at FB. I know I'm in a minority of one on here, but I'm not convinced about Hall. That said I'd rather see him at FB with Horne and Thorman in the halves than Thorman at FB and Washy/Horne in the halves.
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Mrs Barista wrote:Just for completeness, Hall missed 1 in 4 tackles last season and made 1.4 errors per game. This is why it's not a "no-brainer" for Agar to include him at FB. I know I'm in a minority of one on here, but I'm not convinced about Hall. That said I'd rather see him at FB with Horne and Thorman in the halves than Thorman at FB and Washy/Horne in the halves.
TBF Hall did play in 17 positions last season.
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Joined: Mar 03 2004 Posts: 5397 Location: West Hull
Mrs Barista wrote:Just for completeness, Hall missed 1 in 4 tackles last season
Not playing at fullback mainly, though. There, you have less tackles to make and they're pretty much always one-on-one with time to get into position and with the sole aim of bringing the ball carrier down (usually). That's much different to being at centre (possibly the hardest position to defend in).
(And all that's without taking into account the statistics possibly not being completely reliable, maybe.)
dave m wrote:Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.
redtillimdead wrote:Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29793 Location: West Yorkshire
trys'r'us wrote:Not playing at fullback mainly, though. There, you have less tackles to make and they're pretty much always one-on-one with time to get into position and with the sole aim of bringing the ball carrier down (usually). That's much different to being at centre (possibly the hardest position to defend in).
(And all that's without taking into account the statistics possibly not being completely reliable, maybe.)
He did play a few games off the bench though so he does have a high error rate - 3rd highest per game of anyone in the competition last year.
Look, I do think Hall is an outstanding attacking talent. I'm just not convinced that he's robust enough in defence or decision-making. Having him as the last line of defence vs a very strong, physical Catalans team doesn't fill me with confidence and I'm not bothered that no one else shares this opinion. Just pointing out that there is evidence to suggest that he's not the next best thing, even though everyone else on here thinks he is.
Joined: Mar 03 2004 Posts: 5397 Location: West Hull
Mrs Barista wrote:He did play a few games off the bench though so he does have a high error rate - 3rd highest per game of anyone in the competition last year.
That's no surprise for someone with his style of attacking game.
Mrs Barista wrote:Just pointing out that there is evidence to suggest that he's not the next best thing, even though everyone else on here thinks he is.
I'd have him at fullback ahead of Byrne anyway, so not even 'next best' for me.
dave m wrote:Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.
redtillimdead wrote:Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?
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