Boris wrote:Why would Faz take it? It is nothing but poison. Wigan can not win everytying, contrary to fan expectation. Thus any coach will end up getting booted.
Totally agree bout Wigan not winning anything... but you need to consider the talent that is at Wigan should realistically be able to challenge for or even win the Super League / Challenge Cup as they aint won it in DONKEY YEARS!!!
Faz is a great influence and he wud command more respect from the team than any other person who can be thought of... alongside Shaun Edwards I think it would work quite well.
The other option I guess is to put Shaun Wayne in charge and see how he does... but then if things don't work out his name will be tarnished and the quality of the u21 / acadamy performances would suffer as a consequence.
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G4ALV wrote:Totally agree bout Wigan not winning anything... but you need to consider the talent that is at Wigan should realistically be able to challenge for or even win the Super League / Challenge Cup as they aint won it in DONKEY YEARS!!!
Faz is a great influence and he wud command more respect from the team than any other person who can be thought of... alongside Shaun Edwards I think it would work quite well.
The other option I guess is to put Shaun Wayne in charge and see how he does... but then if things don't work out his name will be tarnished and the quality of the u21 / acadamy performances would suffer as a consequence.
TOUGH CALL IS IT NOT
I am not saying we can not win anything-we can. If you look at the amount of Grand Finals and Challenge Cup Finals we have been in, we could be the most successful team in Super Duper League. What I think though is that the fans expect Wigan to win every game, 60-0, and all cups. This is simply not practicable given the professional nature of the game.
Boris wrote:I am not saying we can not win anything-we can. If you look at the amount of Grand Finals and Challenge Cup Finals we have been in, we could be the most successful team in Super Duper League. What I think though is that the fans expect Wigan to win every game, 60-0, and all cups. This is simply not practicable given the professional nature of the game.
I would be happy if we played inventive rugby and lost... than the 5 drives and a kick method, currently used by the one they call 'Nobby'!!!
When we came out second half against Castleford we showed some initiative and worked hard on passing the ball around with pace and mixing it up a little... we are so predictable it is BAD!
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Edwards will not take on the poison chalice that is clear, he's a massive fan, he would never risk souring that. Faz is still v. comfortable in Rah Rah and there's no indication he'd give that up. I'd also want to see him serve an apprenticeship before he had any sort of coaching role. Being a good coach has nothing to do with playing ability.
In terms of coaches, Nobby is the best british option available imho, whether he is the best available is another matter. But there's no need to jump on the bandwagon just yet.
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Conroy wrote:What would people's feelings be on Edwards if he took over and failed miserably?
The same as it is with everyone else. They'd want him out, and why not - failure is no use to a club like Wigan.
I love the idea of Edwards, but Faz has little coaching experience, and assuming a guy will automatically make a good coach because he was once a good captain is rolling back our thinking to the days of Alex Murphy and Dougie Laughton.
Wigan desperately need an intellect of the game. Someone like Graham Lowe, who doesn't come in on a fanfare of playing achievements, but combines modern thinking, professional organisation and thorough preparation for each match. He doesn't have to be a big character; he just needs to know the game inside-out and have a track record at the highest level (i.e. in the NRL), and be able to apply the latest tactics and techniques.
It won't be easy securing one of those guys, but I reckon we're reaching a make or break period and perhaps it's time we went out on a financial limb. One thing we definitely don't need is to take a chance - and I think we'd be doing exactly that with Faz, unless he was to come in as someone else's assistant first.
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Faz - seriously - still playing RU, zero coaching experience I don't think so.Totally the wrong type of appointment.
As Cruncher said a Graham Lowe/John Monie type coach is what the club desperately needs - not a shouter/motivator type. But if anyone else does come to the club they will need the full backing of the Chariman especially in paying for the recruitment of a top class backroom team - something which the club is sadly lacking at present.
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