Joined: Jul 08 2006 Posts: 2059 Location: West Hull
Judder Man wrote:In the past Dennis Betts, Sean Edwards, Ellery Hanley, Andy Gregory, Martin Offiah were the soul of the club most of these postions are now taken up with overseas players because the present management are always looking at the short term fix option. You can,t do that in Superleague anymore the driving force is Leeds and St Helens and to some extent Hull in home grown talent. When the soul of the club is lost you get inconsistency, frustration and inplosion this is what seems to be happening to this once proud club.
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you are right wigan have let some grt players go ,and brought in rubish imports ,the league is full of ex wigan accadmy players playing for other sl clubs ,i think you have to build slowly and add to your local talent with top quality overseas ,to help bring the young locals on ,this is what leeds have done for some time now and where copying it tbh
Ashton Bears wrote:Enough is enough tonight was sad no ideas no defence lockers should never be captain never said a word when they scored, hock could not wait until bedtime goal kicking rubbish no idea whats so ever god help us when we play a good team
Harsh on Hock, before his injury he was one of our only forwards along with Feka that was causing any problems for Cas. He picked up a bad knock on the hip (I think) and obviously couln't continue to play on.
saint mully wrote: It was disappointing to see the numbers leaving after the Lee Smith try when I was coming back in from the toilets, I could hardly get back in
scully = god wrote: We have the worst fans in the league. FACT. What we need is the passion Wigan fans have.
I think it was no coincidence that the 20 minute spell in the 2nd half when the players deviated from Noble's safety first tactics and played off the cuff rugby, then it was also the period when we looked creative and actually put points on the board. The talent is apparent in periods like that, so its clearly just the tactics which are wrong. Confidence is also low - in the last ten minutes the players reverted to the Noble tactics, obviously fearing making a mistake and losing the game - so instead trying to grind a way over the line in hope more than expectation, rather than stepping up, taking a risk and potentially winning it.
Noble is trying to fit players into his gameplan which doesn't suit their natural ability, rather than adapting the gameplan to suit the attributes of the players that he has, as any good coach should to get the best out of his players.
Noble's negativity and inability to innovate beyond Plan A is killing the team.
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