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 Post subject: Re: Rovers Accounts to 30th November 2007
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:44 pm 
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clubfoot fc wrote:Good job Hull KR accepted isn't it considering the kooga fiasco


Might be right there, could be worse, we could have ISC making the shirts for Rovers.

Keep washing those shirts now as you won't be getting many more coming through. :lol:

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CHURCHILL wrote:Wasn't just Rovers though was it, asking for an advanced handout.


Handout = something such as food, clothing or money that is given free to someone who has a great need for it:

Handout implies something extra than what you are entitled to. Clubs are not just given sky money for no reason, its because their games are screened by sky, it is not something for nothing. You asked for an advance on money you are entitled to. However, you are correct it wasn't just Rovers who got this advance.






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Big Spender wrote:Wrong AGAIN.

Unlike our Chairman who denied this on a radio interview, the silence from his counterpart at Hull speaks volumes. :shock:

You have very selective hearing. :lol:






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CHURCHILL wrote:Might be right there, could be worse, we could have ISC making the shirts for Rovers.

Keep washing those shirts now as yours won't turn pink like ours :lol:



Agreed
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 Post subject: Re: Rovers Accounts to 30th November 2007
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:48 pm 
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Big Spender wrote:Wrong AGAIN.

Unlike our Chairman who denied this on a radio interview, the silence from his counterpart at Hull speaks volumes. :shock:


Dreary me. Is this the same man who categorically denied Cooke was about to become a Rovers player the day before he did?

Besides which it was your fan who said you asked for it, I just didn't argue the point, I have no idea if you did or didn't ask for it but I certainly dont believe your chairman as he has previous for making stuff up.






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 Post subject: Re: Rovers Accounts to 30th November 2007
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Robbo4 wrote:Handout = money that is given free to someone who has a great need for it:



So the Sky money could be seen as a handout, as most if not all Super League clubs aren't doing to well in the finance department and it is free money as such, given that the money is passed from Sky to the RFL who in turn hand out the money to the clubs.

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 Post subject: Re: Rovers Accounts to 30th November 2007
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Big Spender wrote:Wrong AGAIN.

Unlike our Chairman who denied this on a interview, the silence from his counterpart at Hull speaks volumes. :shock:


http://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league ... p?ID=10158

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Like the way you've edited your post

anyway enough about hull this is the rovers forum


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Big Spender wrote:Wrong AGAIN.

Unlike our Chairman who denied this on a interview, the silence from his counterpart at Hull speaks volumes. :shock:


http://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league ... p?ID=10158

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Like the way you've edited your post

anyway enough about hull this is the rovers forum


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 Post subject: Re: Rovers Accounts to 30th November 2007
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Gordon Gekko wrote:There is no absolute proof that this person exists unless long term liabilities (£737k) are made up of directors loans from the said 'person' which would lessen the overall net liability somewhat in the short/medium term.

Also if you want a direct comparison with the performance of Hull you would have to look at Hulls books after their first S/L season, the season which these accounts are produced for. Remember Hull have had 7 years of S/L handouts to get where they are now.

Neither Clubs accounts make particularly good reading but nor do most RL clubs, and with Hull about to commit £2m to their training facility i would say theirs are about to take a turn for the worse as there is no evidence that this money can be raised without considerable borrowing, thus incurring more debt.


Hull have had more income over the last few years but have also had much high outgoings including a players wage bill of £1.6m vs one of £0.4m.

I agree that neither club is in a brilliant state financially but the size of the loss Rovers made in 2007 is pretty worrying considering the playing roster that season when Paul Cooke and Mick Vella were pretty much the only big names. The payroll costs will have increased in 2008 with Newton, Galea, Crossman, Jake Webster, paying James Webster for a full season and Dobson for half - this isn't speculation as the club are on the record that they were much nearer the salary cap in 08 than 07. Crossland has also said you've increased youth development expenditure so that's an extra drain on resources. The point is that unless something startling has happened to Rovers business model it's unlikely that 2008 accounts will show a much improved position so the debt figures could well increase.

I agree that FC's level of debt will increase with the new training centre, but depending on how any ground developments at Rovers are funded, so will theirs.

Now the accounts are finally available and a bit grim, I would challenge Hudgell's claim dismissing people speculating about Rovers finances as mischief-makers.

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clubfoot fc wrote:Agreed
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Odd that really, they do say everything is connected, given the meaning of the term 'in the pink', then I suppose being that we are the top team in this city, that we are just that. :lol:

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CHURCHILL wrote:So the Sky money could be seen as a handout, as most if not all Super League clubs aren't doing to well in the finance department and it is free money as such, given that the money is passed from Sky to the RFL who in turn hand out the money to the clubs.


Are you being thick on purpose?

Its not "free money" and handing something out is not the same as a "handout" in this context. If it was a handout it would be on top of the Sky money you get anyway and not part of it.






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