1996-2008 Regular Round finishing positions:

Leeds: 10 : 5 : 2 : 3 : 4 : 5 : 4 : 2 : 1 : 2 : 3 : 2: 2 (Average 3.46)
Wigan: 2 : 4 : 1 : 4 : 1 : 2 : 3 : 3 : 4 : 7 : 8 : 6 : 4 (Average 3.77)

Leeds' Average SL Finish: 3.46
Wigan's Average SL Finish: 3.77

Highlighted in Red - Missed the Play Offs

Wigan were pretty consistently good at the beginning of the sequence and Leeds likewise at the end. It appears that Leeds have pretty much replaced Wigan.

what's saints record?

St Helens:

Played 27, Won 17, Drawn 0, Lost 10 (4 - GF wins)

Bradford:

Played 23, Won 14, Drawn 0, Lost 9 (3 - GF wins)

Bradfords record in the play offs was quite impressive before 2006

I still have to pinch myself that we're now as succesful as the Bulls in the GF era and only one more GF away from equalling the Saints.

How any Leeds fan can complain about the current team, management etc is beyond me.

The patterns are quite interesting. For eaxample Saints record since 2003 is

played: 12
won: 6
lost: 6

While coaching Bradford -

Matthew Elliot:

Played 6, Won 2, Drawn 0, Lost 4 (0 GF wins)

Brian Noble:

Played 12, Won 10, Drawn 0, Lost 2 (3 GF wins)

Steve McNamara:

Played 5, Won 2, Drawn 0, Lost 3 (0 GF wins)

Didn't Nobbys losses both come in the finals??

McNamara hasn't won a play off game since 2006!

Yeah 2002 & 2004.

yeah, becuase they were in the final 5 years in a row weren't they. Saints will be looking to equal that this year