Kelvin's Ferret wrote:Rubbish. The English RU backs are nothing special in their own code let alone learning to play RL. Admittedly we have a shortage of world class backs, but so do they. They've got loads of generic wingers and centres out of moulds they attempted to copy from RL, but they lack finesse and true creativity, and pale in comparison to the likes of Ma'a Nonu or Joe Rokocoko.
Their backs, whilst not world class, are still much better than the english rugby league backs
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In all fairness, the players he listed as examples at the end were not half bad. Mostly backs as well. Is this a perennial problem that we produce a lack of quality in this area?
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Eurob0y wrote:Their backs, whilst not world class, are still much better than the english rugby league backs
Firstly they've never played RL, secondly their limitations mean they have to play a more basic style than the better international sides. How you can believe they are much better is beyond me. If they lack finesse and creativity in their own code they're unlikely to offer those things to a team in a different code. They don't have anything we don't have, and their problems are the same we have, the only real difference is that they can more easily change their style of play to limit the damage when they play better sides.
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Of the Union players on show over the weekend, O'Driscoll, D'Arcy and David Wallace from Ireland, Armitage and Sackey from England, Mauro Bergamasco from Italy, lee byrne and tom shanklin from wales....and Shane Williams who was injured...MIGHT make the grade.
Of all of those named above, the Italian is the one I would most like to see make the switch.
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gutterfax wrote:Of the Union players on show over the weekend, O'Driscoll, D'Arcy and David Wallace from Ireland, Armitage and Sackey from England, Mauro Bergamasco from Italy, lee byrne and tom shanklin from wales....and Shane Williams who was injured...MIGHT make the grade. Of all of those named above, the Italian is the one I would most like to see make the switch.
didn't you see him against england??
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Kelvin's Ferret wrote:Firstly they've never played RL, secondly their limitations mean they have to play a more basic style than the better international sides. How you can believe they are much better is beyond me. If they lack finesse and creativity in their own code they're unlikely to offer those things to a team in a different code. They don't have anything we don't have, and their problems are the same we have, the only real difference is that they can more easily change their style of play to limit the damage when they play better sides.
What are you talking about? You only have to look at the way they play to see they are much better than plodders like Senior, Wellens, Gardner, Smith, Yeaman etc. The only english back who is decent is Gleeson. Armitage and Sackey are 2 players who would rip it up in rugby league.
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SmokeyTA wrote:on the basis he was a better winger than the best british wingers by a country mile
He wasn't though, was he? Not 13 months ago. He was doing well to make it into Bradford's team and, when he could manage to get on the pitch, he was slow, sluggish and generally fairly poor.
dave m wrote:Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.
redtillimdead wrote:Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?
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didn't you see him against england??
