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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:48 pm 
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Inside knowledge, Gleeson wont be back for a month or so. If Reardon was fit next week he wouldn't make the 17 in my eyes after Riley's performance last night, he showed maturity and composure way beyond his years

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Jimmy Wire wrote:Inside knowledge, Gleeson wont be back for a month or so. If Reardon was fit next week he wouldn't make the 17 in my eyes after Riley's performance last night, he showed maturity and composure way beyond his years


I have to agree on Riley, the lad should be starting every game.

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Jimmy Wire wrote:Inside knowledge, Gleeson wont be back for a month or so. If Reardon was fit next week he wouldn't make the 17 in my eyes after Riley's performance last night, he showed maturity and composure way beyond his years


If Reardon was fit next week then I would stick him on the wing to help in get back into the swing of things for a few weeks before we throw him in at the deep end at full back again

Plus the way Riley played last night means he cannot be dropped, Top performance from the lad

As one of his biggest critics over the past year or two I am delighted that he has come good and hope to see this improvement carry on!






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Bridge to full back, Riley on the wing and Penny dropped.

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Assuming we picked up no injuries, and nobody will be back...

As long as Riley continues as he played last night, then the fullback position should be his.

Johnson is no longer a back, and the sooner Gleeson returns and PJ can return to the pack/bench the better.

Penny has become many peoples scapegoat for inadequacies elsewhere, but I don't believe he deserves to be dropped.

Sadly although King is still failing to deliver, there are currently no better options at the club unless he is moved onto the wing. (I would love to give him a run outside Gleeson when he's back).

I've all but given up on believing Monas is actually a halfback. IMO he should be the starting hooker with Higham coming off the bench. Bridge and Briers should be the halfback combo. If he doesn't like going back to the hooking role then I'm sure a release could be negotiated from his contract leaving him free to go home and freeing up a chunk of cap to spend elsewhere.

For Catalan (assuming same players available)
Riley
Hicks
Johnson (reluctantly)
King (very reluctantly)
Penny
Bridge
Briers
Morley
Monaghan
Carvell
Westwood
LAnderson
Blythe

Rauhihi
Wood
Higham
Harrison

And when/if everyone is fit
Riley
King
Gleeson
VAnderson
Hicks
Bridge
Briers
Morley
Monaghan
Carvell
Westwood
LAnderson
Blythe

Rauhihi
Wood
Higham
Johnson






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Briers Is God wrote:Who played yesterday?


Going by your question, you didn't go. Your location says Callands, so how do you get your running costs so far as £225 for Saints away? :?

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The only change I'd expect to see is Vinnie Anderson back in the side, Blythe to the bench and then maybe Bridge to miss out. I don't know the reserves fixtures, but we could do with a couple quickly to really get some mileage into Bridge, it's atough ask to just pick up where you left off.

Even with the poor display King put in, I'd afford him a couple more games to put things right, but it's daft talk, as he won't get dropped full stop, right now, in my eyes he's candidate no#1 for the chop. We all know in reality that if there is to be a scapegoat then the likelyhood is that Lowes will select Penny, and to be honest, I'll find that really hard to swallow.

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JWP wrote:The only change I'd expect to see is Vinnie Anderson back in the side, Blythe to the bench and then maybe Bridge to miss out. I don't know the reserves fixtures, but we could do with a couple quickly to really get some mileage into Bridge, it's atough ask to just pick up where you left off.

Even with the poor display King put in, I'd afford him a couple more games to put things right, but it's daft talk, as he won't get dropped full stop, right now, in my eyes he's candidate no#1 for the chop. We all know in reality that if there is to be a scapegoat then the likelyhood is that Lowes will select Penny, and to be honest, I'll find that really hard to swallow.


On the point about King, i agree he should get the chop if he continues to play so poorly. However Lowes will definatley select to drop Penny ahead of King.

Starting line-up next week I'd expect Lowes to go:
Riley
Hicks
Gleeson (if fit)
King
Johnson
Briers
Monas
Carvell
Higham
Moz
Westwood
Landerson
Vanderson

Bench:
Wood
Rah
Blyth
Bridge

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Mighty Wires wrote:On the point about King, i agree he should get the chop if he continues to play so poorly. However Lowes will definatley select to drop Penny ahead of King.

Starting line-up next week I'd expect Lowes to go:
Riley
Hicks
Gleeson (if fit)
King
Johnson
Briers
Monas
Carvell
Higham
Moz
Westwood
Landerson
Vanderson

Bench:
Wood
Rah
Blyth
Bridge


Sadly, I think you may be right. I wouldn't be surprised to see that 17. I suspect that Gleeson may not be fit, so that gives you an issue at right centre, do you leave PJ there or rush Bridge back quicker than anticipated. He obviously isn't ready for this right now, but circumstance has thrust him back into the first team, and I suspect he would tell you that himself.

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JWP wrote:Sadly, I think you may be right. I wouldn't be surprised to see that 17. I suspect that Gleeson may not be fit, so that gives you an issue at right centre, do you leave PJ there or rush Bridge back quicker than anticipated. He obviously isn't ready for this right now, but circumstance has thrust him back into the first team, and I suspect he would tell you that himself.


Aye pal, since Gleeson looks to be unavailable I think Lowes may choose to play Bridge rather than Penny now. I most definatley agree Bridge needs more time and should be played bit by bit, after such bad spell of injuries.

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