Matt King does not deserve selection. A couple of poor handling errors, a blown chance for putting Penny in for a score and a succession of poor decisions and executions in the defensive line.
I had a long, long hard think about King last night, having defended him a fair bit last season.
I have now come to the conclusion that he was selected for Origin and and test footie due to his physique, that he looked good thanks mainly to players around him making him look good and, in reality, he isn't very much special individually.
We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky And we're always the last when the cream is shared out For the worker is working when the fat cat's about
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eddie gordo wrote:I'm sorry, I just don't get this.
Granted, Penny is a young kid still learning the game. His defence has improved greatly, which shows his attitude is first class as well. It's obviously something he's working hard at.
Take the penultimate try. Penny came in from his wing and made his tackle, the man turned to offload to Gidley and King was strolling around out of position, again!
Here we have the most exciting winger we've had since Dessie who's also showing a desire to improve his overall game, not just rely on his pace. It's apparent Lowes doesn't rate him - my worry is next week we'll have a King/Johnson left wing partnership
King's shortcomings are being exposed - we can only use the homesick excuse for so long
It's not just Kev, the whole left side doesn't fill me with confidence to be honest, especially King.
I just feel that we're going to concede every time a side go at us down that left side, that's why I said I'd like to see Johnson and Reardon.
I think Kev has a massive future in the game, and it's clear for all to see that his tackling technique has improved, he's still not the finished article, though, and for me, Reardon would be a safer option.
It would be disappointing to see Penny dropped against Catalan and King not, since King was very poor.
I really don't get it with King. I remember when we announced his signing, I'm sure I remember seeing Aussie pundits saying how great he'll be, and a mate of mine spoken to a few Aussie's when he went on holiday, and they were saying he's twice the player of Lyon, at the moment, he doesn't even look like a half decent winger, I'd sooner see Hicks at centre if King carries on this form.
As much as King is gash, and I really am close to having had about enough of him now, there's something niggling at me that it must be the way that we are set up which is causing this. I just can't get my head around how he wouldn't have been exposed in the NRL. It's a defence driven competition, he would have been defending against some pretty good centres, we could all name 10 quality Australian right centres off the top of our head, so how did he cope ?
He must have been faced with quality opponents one on one, week in week out and must have held is own, if you don't in the NRL, there's a rookie waiting in the wings who will take your spot. Is it just simply that they had 12 other better defenders so he wasn't exposed anywhere near as much as he is for us ? Something is wrong, big time.
Mr.Fussy wrote:He looks like a cross between jesus and a geography teacher
I don't really know much about religion, I know that Jesus turned stuff into fish & loaves of bread, King turns overlaps & breaks into handovers, so I think he may well be Jesus.
JWP wrote:As much as King is gash, and I really am close to having had about enough of him now, there's something niggling at me that it must be the way that we are set up which is causing this. I just can't get my head around how he wouldn't have been exposed in the NRL. It's a defence driven competition, he would have been defending against some pretty good centres, we could all name 10 quality Australian right centres off the top of our head, so how did he cope ?
He must have been faced with quality opponents one on one, week in week out and must have held is own, if you don't in the NRL, there's a rookie waiting in the wings who will take your spot. Is it just simply that they had 12 other better defenders so he wasn't exposed anywhere near as much as he is for us ? Something is wrong, big time.
i've made the same point about penny, if he's sooooo defensively bad and inexperienced, hwo come it wasn't spotted, pointed out and exploited in 2007 when he made his debut, it had to take 12 games and an off season for other coaches to work out he's allegedly suspect in defence.
If he was that bad it would have been horrendously obvious from the that leeds game, and the following games when he was defending with a right winger playing at left centre.
JWP wrote: Is it just simply that they had 12 other better defenders so he wasn't exposed anywhere near as much as he is for us ? Something is wrong, big time.
That's the only explanation I can think of.
Gidley's try from Gardner's offload, for example, I don't understand why he and AN Other (couldn't make out who it was) had to over-run themselves and line up behind Penny, leaving Gidley in the proverbial acres of space. Perhaps he has such little faith in Penny he predicted an easy walk over for Gardner and felt he had to prepare for such an eventuallity. Even so, what happened to good old fashioned communication between he and AN Other?
We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky And we're always the last when the cream is shared out For the worker is working when the fat cat's about
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It's really really sad that Matt King is taking up about 12% of your salary cap but is underperforming so badly. Gidley made him look like a rank amateur last night. That said, Gilmour did the same to Johnson.
It's not all doom and gloom though for you Wolfs. Mickey Higham had a very good game, and when he was on the field, Rauhihi caused us problems. Riley's got plenty of spirit and you've got another yard dog in Carvell (but what more do you expect from Hull).
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Saint Rabban wrote:It's really really sad that Matt King is taking up about 12% of your salary cap but is underperforming so badly. Gidley made him look like a rank amateur last night. That said, Gilmour did the same to Johnson.
It's not all doom and gloom though for you Wolfs. Mickey Higham had a very good game, and when he was on the field, Rauhihi caused us problems. Riley's got plenty of spirit and you've got another yard dog in Carvell (but what more do you expect from Hull).
The consensus from the Stains trolls we've had today seems to be that Carvell is a bit of a rough house/dirty player? I don't understand where this has come from? He seemed to hit hard, but fair to me last night. Certainly no more of a 'yard dog' than Cunningham, Graham or Marie.
Am I in your keepnet now?
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