Smith was probably our MOM. Goulding could have scored twice but the fact that he weighs about 3 stone meant he got polaxed twice.

Both defences were on top for most of the game. We scored off 2 kicks (no surprise there). Amos had a good (half game) at fullback. Fielden was good in stints too.

Shame we didn't see the 'razzle-dazzle'. Even when 8 points down there was only Hock who actually bothered trying to offload.

That take by O'Loughlin was quality.

I know that's why I said "your best tackler".

I'll give you an opinion after the Cas game. God knows what category of fan I am but I wasn't there tonight so have no idea how they played compared to last week. What I do know is they lost and losing your two opening games isn't really good enough.

Dave

Lets face it boys & girls, we might hear we were out enthused, we disrespected the game, we didn't complete our sets, they where up for it that little bit more, the season isn't won in feb. Blah, Blah, Blah. The fact is to lose to a poor Hull side and a shocking Wakey side, we are in the poop. Riddell (injury or not) is poop, Phelps has not kicked on at all, & would the real Tim Smith please stand up. We still don't have that plan B when our predictable plan A does wrong.

I don't know if we have the answers at this point in time, I am that depressed it is frightening. This poop needs sorting out & quick if we lose 2 cas next week we might be looking at a bad, bad season. We either get S. Tomkins in to see what he can do or we get someone else in because, we are not creating or finishing enough chances and why the fook can't we keep hold of the fooking ball, this is really poop, poop, poop, poop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If he is deemed all washed up as Wigan coach what is the point in keeping him?

Give the job to Wane on a temporary basis.

The devil you know may do more damage by being kept on.

Dave

A few things:

I don't think we were 'out-enthused' tonight.
The Hull side wasn't poor.
Phelps went off injured after about 20 (30?) minutes. O'Loughlin/Tomkins had to play centre.
Tim Smith was our MOM tonight.

You are a Category 4 fan at least.

a poor hull fc team that beat an equally poor if not worse overseas filled less than average team!!

The Hull side is poor, Noble will say "we were out enthused", I am aware that Phelps pulled up after 20+ minutes with what looks like a hamstring, as for Smith he might have been one of our best players but he drifts in and out of the game far too much, Smiths problem is that he is 2 steps ahead of the other losers in the team.

Where there many rumours pre season? Beyond those on here not liking Noble?

We need to give him 10-15 games. It is madness to judge a coach 3 games into a season.

Yes, there seems to be no improvement from last, but I fail to see who we can appoint after 3 games who is available who would change anything, given we don't have a stand off and are a centre short of being anything like.

Indeed, at least tonight it looked like the players cared. A bit

Not quite panic stations just yet, but if I was in Nobby's shoes I'd be getting a bit twitchy. I've been pro-Noble from day 1, but tonight for the the first time, I walked off the ground wondering if he really is the the man for Wigan. Losing against Cas is not an option now, under any circumstances...