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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:40 pm 
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JLM23 wrote:Nice Try, But as usual you dont show the full picture.

Fielden averages a gain of 7.19 metres per drive.
Leuluai averages a gain of 7.64 metres per drive.
Carvell averages a gain of 8.77 Metres per drive.

Hence I suggest this would support my argument that they are both more likely to make more metres on a drive than Fielden.


Fielden works a damn site harder, carries the ball more, makes far more tackles, and misses less.

Which one would you want in your side?






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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:40 pm 
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Rogues Gallery wrote:Way off the mark.

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=1212&hs2=2008&hp2=29&stat=penalties&season=2008

Fielden beats them both in all facets of the game.
has his dad done them ,what a load ov crap all that is ,someone just makes it up to make it look good
Rogues Gallery wrote:Way off the mark.

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=1212&hs2=2008&hp2=29&stat=penalties&season=2008

Fielden beats them both in all facets of the game.
has his dad done them ,what a load ov crap all that is ,someone just makes it up to make it look good

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:41 pm 
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JLM23 wrote:Nice Try, But as usual you dont show the full picture.

Fielden averages a gain of 7.19 metres per drive.
Leuluai averages a gain of 7.64 metres per drive.
Carvell averages a gain of 8.77 Metres per drive.

Hence I suggest this would support my argument that they are both more likely to make more metres on a drive than Fielden.


And Fielden did 3 x times the work of the other 2 put together last season!

More Metres
More Tackles
More Offloads
More Busts
Less errors per game

I take you back some 3 months almost to the day in much warmer (And Wetter :DRUNK: Surroundings!)

He should have gone to the World Cup last Year! End of!

If he had, maybe we wouldnt have had to get so Drunk To forget it all ! :wink:






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 Post subject: Re: The Back Row
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:45 pm 
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Rogues Gallery wrote:Fielden works a damn site harder, carries the ball more, makes far more tackles, and misses less.

Which one would you want in your side?


Fielden misses less Tackles? Now you sure on that one?

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 Post subject: Re: The Back Row
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:48 pm 
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JLM23 wrote:Fielden misses less Tackles? Now you sure on that one?


Compared to tackles made yes.

If someone makes 10 tackles and misses 2 and someone else makes 100 and misses 10 which one is better?






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 Post subject: Re: The Back Row
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:50 pm 
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Jukesays wrote:And Fielden did 3 x times the work of the other 2 put together last season!

More Metres
More Tackles
More Offloads
More Busts
Less errors per game

I take you back some 3 months almost to the day in much warmer (And Wetter :DRUNK: Surroundings!)

He should have gone to the World Cup last Year! End of!

If he had, maybe we wouldnt have had to get so Drunk To forget it all ! :wink:


He was probably on the pitch for much Longer than the pair of them two, so that would stand to reason, Carvell only played 10 games, so it's obvious he'd make more tackles and more Yards over the season. However, that wasn't my argument, I just said they were more likely to make metres, which has been proven.

However, like you say, and im sure I said during our drunken blur, on the form from the 2nd half of last season Yes Fielden should have gone to the world cup, especially infront of Fasavalu!

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 Post subject: Re: The Back Row
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:52 pm 
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Rogues Gallery wrote:Compared to tackles made yes.

If someone makes 10 tackles and misses 2 and someone else makes 100 and misses 10 which one is better?
the one who missis 10 as he will do if hes made 100 .higham used make 100 a game and miss none ,ps higham has left ,you not won yet work that one out amigo :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:53 pm 
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JLM23 wrote:Nice Try, But as usual you dont show the full picture.

Fielden averages a gain of 7.19 metres per drive.
Leuluai averages a gain of 7.64 metres per drive.
Carvell averages a gain of 8.77 Metres per drive.

Hence I suggest this would support my argument that they are both more likely to make more metres on a drive than Fielden.


Incedentally

All of the above are MORE than MOS "Takes A shuffle and turns his shoulder When in OZ!" James Graham!

You didn't seem to mention that one! :wink:






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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:55 pm 
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JLM23 wrote:He was probably on the pitch for much Longer than the pair of them two, so that would stand to reason, Carvell only played 10 games, so it's obvious he'd make more tackles and more Yards over the season. However, that wasn't my argument, I just said they were more likely to make metres, which has been proven.

However, like you say, and im sure I said during our drunken blur, on the form from the 2nd half of last season Yes Fielden should have gone to the world cup, especially infront of Fasavalu!


I should have Gone in front of that Useless Waste of space!

4 x props! 2 that had been injured nearly all season! No Back Up! 4 or 5 players who wnet just to make up the numbers!

He had 2 x years to get it right and he came up with that! :roll:

That's another argument for another day! :wink:






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I thanked him and went on my Merry way!

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 Post subject: Re: The Back Row
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:57 pm 
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Jukesays wrote:Incedentally

All of the above are MORE than MOS "Takes A shuffle and turns his shoulder When in OZ!" James Graham!

You didn't seem to mention that one! :wink:


No your right, I didn't, Didn't even check him to be honest!
However, using your argument Graham, did much more on everything else, and Graham wasn't brought into this discussion anyway.
You are right about the turning the shoulder though. :wink:

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