Enfield Exile wrote:Please answer my question: What has he done in the last two years? If he is wortld class he would still be an excellent player
Ronaldo? Nowhere near as effective as Robihno at international level. I'll judge him once he has played in Spain (next season).
Messi? Best player in the world
Ribery? Don't be daft.
Robben? IMO he's the equal of Ronaldo
Interesting that you regard Robihno as an out-and-out winger. He's more of a forward. It's his best position. IMO he's the best No10 in the PL.
Your specifying the type of midfielder. Can I say then that in terms of wingers, Robihno is the best 'predominantly right-footed but plays on the left and scores a few' in the world?
Robihno and Mascherano cannot be compared. Being a good tackler and keeping it simple doesn't make you one of the best players in the world. If it does, then you you are easily pleased. He can do a specific job and be effective, but never world class. Meanwhile Robihno has been excellent for Brazil - arguably the best team in the world.
Please explain how you can be top class and not be able to pass the ball consistently over 20 yards to a player in your own team?
Do you even know what you said, seriously?
Enfield Exile wrote:None of those are or were world class IMO
I didn't say Crespo is still world class, he's an old man now and he's past his prime, but in his day, he was world class, Lazio broke the world transfer record to sign him, any player of that quality is world class. Crespo's not done much in the past two years, but he was world class, you said he wasn't.
As for Mascherano, I think he's the best defensive midfielder in the world, if your opinion differs, then fair enough, but I think he's world class.
Also, international football, for me, only adds to about 10% of my opinion on a player. We all know how well David Healy done for NI in the Euro qualifying, but I wouldn't use that in argument to say he's better than a good striker who's disappointed at international level. Club level is a higher level than international football now, in my opinion. Besides, Ronaldo hasn't been that bad for Portugal in his international career, he's been very good actually, he just had an average Euro's.
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