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Should Mathers be dropped for Hull?
Yes 79%  79%  [ 192 ]
No 21%  21%  [ 52 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:57 pm 
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Should Mathers be dropped for Hull?

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He would be put in the reserves and if he still was cack id offer him to every SL team whether it be loan or perminant. Time to get ruthless, deserve your place or send him packing, but that goes for Coley, Phelps or everyone else too.

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Alex BP' wrote:Let's stop comparing him with the rest of the team and ignore supporters reactions & let's look at his overall game.

His attacking play in non-existant. Last season he had ONE try to his name and ONE try assist. For a fullback that is absolutely appauling. He doesn't get involved with link up play nor does he track up the middle, failing to hang off players shoulders in support as ALL fullbacks should.

His defence since arriving at the club has again been appauling. He struggles with one on one tackles and makes very poor decisions when it comes to the crunch. His red card against King and the yellow card yesterday is clear evidence. How many times last year did we see players literally walk through him with alot of ease?

His positional play is probably the worst. He is too indecisive when it comes to attacking kicks. He hasn't the confidence to attack the ball nor does he have the correct judgement of when to leave it. His handling is often very nervy and it's usual for him to juggle with the ball when trying to return or control an attacking kick.

It's nothing personal, it's just we can't afford to play him. He currently isn't good enough and is a massive weakness in the side. He might be a nice lad, enthusiastic and low in confidence...But sorry, none of that is worth risking results.


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Alex BP' wrote:Let's stop comparing him with the rest of the team and ignore supporters reactions & let's look at his overall game.

His attacking play in non-existant. Last season he had ONE try to his name and ONE try assist. For a fullback that is absolutely appauling. He doesn't get involved with link up play nor does he track up the middle, failing to hang off players shoulders in support as ALL fullbacks should.

His defence since arriving at the club has again been appauling. He struggles with one on one tackles and makes very poor decisions when it comes to the crunch. His red card against King and the yellow card yesterday is clear evidence. How many times last year did we see players literally walk through him with alot of ease?

His positional play is probably the worst. He is too indecisive when it comes to attacking kicks. He hasn't the confidence to attack the ball nor does he have the correct judgement of when to leave it. His handling is often very nervy and it's usual for him to juggle with the ball when trying to return or control an attacking kick.

It's nothing personal, it's just we can't afford to play him. He currently isn't good enough and is a massive weakness in the side. He might be a nice lad, enthusiastic and low in confidence...But sorry, none of that is worth risking results.


I see your point, but i feel its a little harsh complaining about him and 131 people saying he is awful, when yesterday he was better than a few players. Thats my only point.

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Fly'in Scotsman wrote:Who keeps voting to keep him in the team.


My guess would be the women that fancy him. Or Noble. Or the "seals" that are only too happy to clap and cheer anything they hear aboutt the club.

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PIE RUNNER wrote:I see your point, but i feel its a little harsh complaining about him and 131 people saying he is awful, when yesterday he was better than a few players. Thats my only point.


So who was he better than then?






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He didn't drop a ball, only because he bloody didn't go for any.

Send him to Leigh.






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PIE RUNNER wrote:I see your point, but i feel its a little harsh complaining about him and 131 people saying he is awful, when yesterday he was better than a few players. Thats my only point.


I know, but since his first game in cherry and white he has shown no signs of consistant improvement. Through out last year he was generally very poor yet the majority of supporters and coach were willing to give him a chance. After a full pre-season, three friendly games and one Super League there is STILL no sign improvement since his very first game for the club and it's fustrating to see, he simply can't continue to be selected.

Even though I've heavily criticised him, you'll also see a few posts of mine in this thread sympathizing with Mathers. Yes, he is enthusiastic and he shows no lack of effort but it simply isn't enough to warrent a place within the squad. The supporters reactions are understandable as they don't like to see a poor performance from a key position, but that's Brian Noble's fault as it's his decision to keep selecting him.

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Bridger wrote:So who was he better than then?


Josh Vievers could have done better.

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Bridger wrote:So who was he better than then?


1. Roberts
2. Coley
3. Riddell

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