St.John wrote:No, it doesn't.

This is you making things up again, and hoping people won't notice. It's a strange tactic, particularly as people can simply read the thread.

dally messenger wrote:ive provided examples of gloating which you said didnt happen.

me wrote:England fans, astonishing as this may seem to you, actually care about the image of the game as well as winning.

We don't have the luxury of the extensive coverage you enjoy in Aus, so we're very protective of our hard-earned image for being friendly and amiable, with no quarter asked nor given on the field but an extensive and good natured cameraderie off it.

You shouldn't assume it's simple schadenfreude from the England fans - many of us genuinely were disgusted by Stuart's behaviour towards the officials in public.

St.John wrote:That's not what I said.



I have not said there is no gloating - I've said the objection to Stuart's behaviour is not simply due to him being the then Australian coach.

Like I said earlier, you make things up.

dally messenger wrote:how can i have made it up when the post above yours specifically is from someone who says he is gloating.

St.John wrote:Because I didn't claim there was no gloating. That was something you made up.

I've posted my quote, and it makes no reference to an absence of gloating - it points out that the objection to Stuarts behaviour is not motivated purely by who he coaches. There is an objection to that sort of behaviour from a coach full stop.

dally messenger wrote:sorry but thats a load of BS.

St.John wrote:It's not - and anyone who cares to read my comments will see that it's something you've simply made up.

Please quote exactly where I said there was no gloating.

dally messenger wrote:[b]dally messenger wrote: and judging from the gloating on here, i think my point stands.

you wrote:like i said before, this whole stuart bashing here is just a case of sour grapes by english fans at how bad their team were.

its really, really bad form

St.John wrote:Your point being:



Your point does not stand unless the Stuart bashing is motivated solely by who he coaches, and who the poster supports. That's not the case.

Now, please quote where I said there was no gloating.