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'Juice' Terry wrote:Did you realise he was a massive racist after watching it?
Not just the racism, but the way he humiliated his wife in public and treated Joe after the way he had been treated by him. It was appalling. The Nation Of Islam manipulation is no excuse. I found it all deeply saddening, particularly Frazier's situation.
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McClennan wrote:Not just the racism, but the way he humiliated his wife in public and treated Joe after the way he had been treated by him. It was appalling. The Nation Of Islam manipulation is no excuse. I found it all deeply saddening, particularly Frazier's situation.
You should watch – When We Were Kings. A similar documentary of a different fight.
It isn’t as good but looks at things from a different angle. Ali was tremendously entertaining both as a boxer and a speaker but his views towards the end seemed extremely warped.
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'Juice' Terry wrote:You should watch – When We Were Kings. A different documentary of the same fight.
It isn’t as good but looks at things from a different angle. Ali was tremendously entertaining both as a boxer and a speaker but his views towards the end seemed extremely warped.
Thriller in Manilla = Joe Frazier
When We Were Kings = Rumble in the Jungle = George Foreman
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I'd also suggest reading King of the World by David Remnick, which explores Ali's childhood, amateur career and his pro career up to the Rumble in the Jungle. That goes into quite a bit of detail on his involvement with the Nation of Islam and the conflicts between his involvement with the Nation and his friendship with Malcolm X.
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'Juice' Terry wrote:You should watch – When We Were Kings. A similar documentary of a different fight.
That's good but it's nowhere near as revealing as the doc from last night. When We Were Kings was more a presentation of things, last night's had some exploration of really was at the heart of events insteading of just kowtowing to Ali's aura.
David Haye tonight... who is showing it? ITV or Setanta? Setanta have been building up to it for months now saying how Haye could be the next contender for the Heavyweight Belts.
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Hollywood Harrigan wrote:David Haye tonight... who is showing it? ITV or Setanta? Setanta have been building up to it for months now saying how Haye could be the next contender for the Heavyweight Belts.
Hollywood Harrigan wrote:David Haye tonight... who is showing it? ITV or Setanta? Setanta have been building up to it for months now saying how Haye could be the next contender for the Heavyweight Belts.
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I don't know a great deal about Barrett, but I'm looking forward to seeing Haye in action again. It's been too long since his last fight and he's in a rare breed of exciting heavyweights.
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Blobbynator wrote:I don't know a great deal about Barrett, but I'm looking forward to seeing Haye in action again. It's been too long since his last fight and he's in a rare breed of exciting heavyweights.
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