If its that old ref tonight and he's as bad as usual he's getting both barrells

He's shocking. He gives fouls for nothing challenges, then the blatant fouls he plays on! One lad a few weeks ago got completely and utterly crunched in a tackle, the person tackling him was nowhere near the ball and all you heard the ref shout was "get up, he won the ball". At that point even I was screaming at the ref along with all of their players.

Ash, do you fancy doing a betting syndicate to (attempt) to pay for England games?

Me you and Big Mac could take turns to have a £5 on something, so its £5 each every 3 weeks and any money won goes into a pot to pay part or all (if were lucky) for the next England trip?

Only the person whose turn it is bets and the others aren't allowed to influence it?

He even gets basics wrong like letting teams score from their own half of the pitch or letting the keeper kick it out. Thats how games start to turn nasty

You've been reading the betting thread on Other Sports.

Correct What do you reckon?

Aye, we can give it a go. We just need to tell Big Mac not to do his 100 team accumulators and we may be ok.

Aye was thinking accys that pay around 10-1 would be ideal really.

My treble would have paid just under 11/1 last night had Man City won (not a clue how they didn't having seen the highlights). Doesn't need to be loads of teams. Pick teams with decent odds and stick to two/three teams.

Would only need 3 or 4 to come in and it would pay for the train and hotel for us.