I suppose that could be said of a lot of sports clubs the world over. We have had it time and time again at our beloved Hull FC, but we still support the players if not the management.

When you get the jugernaut that is the maple leafs though, it is almost criminal that they have not won the cup in over 40 years. It could be worse though, what about Chicago cubs fans ( that will be me then) , their owners have been shafting them for years, although things have improved the past couple of years. Now 100 years and counting without a world series, but at least the bank balance keeps growing.

Go Buffalo! Though I hardly follow the NHL these days unfortunately.

Will be interesting to see how the Blueshirts get on this season without JJ.

Sather made a great acquisition in Markus Naslund, and good to see Drury given the nod for captain this season.

Only three things that trouble me about this coming season. Firstly, we are pretty light in defense. With six on the roster, it only stretches to two guys on SC1, SC2 and the CHK lines.

Secondly, we really need to work on our indiscipline this season. Time after time, we've been in with a shout with games but then give away stupid penalties and the game goes away from us.

And finally, I can't believe we still haven't re-signed Shanny up from unrestricted. He had 46 points in 73 games last season, which is okay, but his work rate is immense.

First game up against the Hawks at MSG and then the following day have to take a trip to Philly.

Leafs 3-2 Red Wings

Difference with the Cubbies is you can't accuse those in charge of not even trying to put a winning side together. Those incontrol of the Leafs don't want to relinquish it and this is what's holding them back. They like the power too much and so any GM they bring in will effectively have his hands tied from day one. Same can be said of the manager to a certain extent.

Also, the fans do nothing to protest this. We've had plenty of vocal protests at FC over the years when we've been unhappy about the way the club is being run. The Leafs fans just sit and take it. TBH they deserve all they get.

Good win last night though - I am awaiting mass hysteria from the local media.

There already planning the parade down Younge Street

For me the Leafs are the equivalent to a lesser degree as to how the Blackhawks were run the last 10-15 years under old man Wirtz. Old Dollar Bill was happy to milk the fans and their loyalty making money while not really invested in the team as such. Since the passing of Dollar Bill the Hawks have gone from strength to strength and are now seriously investing in the team and we can even watch them on TV now!!!. I see the same things been done at the Leafs, when they let Corson & Roberts go who were 2 players who (admittedly were on the back end of their careers but) would have gone through brickwalls for the Leafs cause and when Pat Quinn left the writing was on the wall as to how the club was to be run.

Granted Pat Quinn had a huge payroll during his tenure as head coach but his teams regularly outperformed the teams with much greater resources and payrolls, lets face it Pat Quinn wasn't the most successful active coach in terms of games won at the time for nothing, but there only so much you can do as a coach when the peiople upstairs arent interested in success only money. What is happening with Sundin, has he decided his future yet?

Always enjoy catching the Leafs in action when I go over to Toronto.

Nothing from Sundin yet. The Leafs should have told him where to stick it back in August.


...and the Leafs need to stop giving players no-trade clauses in their contracts. It's done nothing but bite them on the booty recently.

Couldn't agree more. For a player who keeps saying the Leafs mean so much to him he can't decide what to do I'd hate to think how he'd treat a club he didn't think anything of.

Bruins beat the Avalanche 5-4