barham red wrote:Mills had looked better over recent games but he was appalling in the quins game, saying that who wasn't? I think we need to gve players time to settle and hopefully he will show improvement next season, he just needs to watch Macca run and do some of the same.
Cockayne is a good squad player who can cover a lot of positions, he can definitely give the team a lift when coming off the bench and if the season has shown one thing (and Hull fans should know this more than most) you need squad players cos the likelyhood of getting the starting 13 on the pitch seems to less likely as the SL goes on. If we let him go would we get a better back up player I doubt it, add to this his heart is in the club and he'll be a great boost when re-signed.
Scruton isn't coming here the liklihood will be Fozzard and possibly Colburn and that'll be it. This for me will give us a better platform for next year as we need some squad consistency to progress.
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With Vella, Crossman and Mills signed up for 2009 (or beyond), the seemingly almost certain arrival of Fozzard and Aizue probably staying (otherwise why would we need a dispensation for Gene?) that will give us much better depth and competition for places at prop. We have been lucky with injuries there this season tbh. If our back row injuries had have hit our front row instead, we'd have been knacked.
Watts may get a few more games next year, as well.
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Mild Rover wrote:With Vella, Crossman and Mills signed up for 2009 (or beyond), the seemingly almost certain arrival of Fozzard and Aizue probably staying (otherwise why would we need a dispensation for Gene?) that will give us much better depth and competition for places at prop. We have been lucky with injuries there this season tbh. If our back row injuries had have hit our front row instead, we'd have been knacked. Watts may get a few more games next year, as well.
So who would be the starters out of those 5 (6):
Fozzard
Vella
Crossman
Mills
Aizue
(Watts)
I think vella and fozzard are the senior props out of those. However we have seen that Garrett Crossman is far better starting games then he is off the bench. I think i would possibly start with Crossman and Fozzard using Vella and Makka off the bench.
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Alex Mc wrote:So who would be the starters out of those 5 (6):
Fozzard Vella Crossman Mills Aizue (Watts)
I think vella and fozzard are the senior props out of those. However we have seen that Garrett Crossman is far better starting games then he is off the bench. I think i would possibly start with Crossman and Fozzard using Vella and Makka off the bench.
I'd start with Vella, with Fozzard off the bench. If they are all fit, I think the positive thing is that they can each have the odd week off. People have been critical of Mills and Crossman, and even Vella has sometimes looked a little jaded - but they have been playing week in, week out.
When we had Vella, Ward, Gannon, Aizue, Tangata-Toa and Tandy last year Morgan rotated them and though on paper our opponents usually looked stronger, on the pitch we often looked fresher.
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barham red wrote:Mills had looked better over recent games but he was appalling in the quins game, saying that who wasn't? I think we need to gve players time to settle and hopefully he will show improvement next season, he just needs to watch Macca run and do some of the same. Cockayne is a good squad player who can cover a lot of positions, he can definitely give the team a lift when coming off the bench and if the season has shown one thing (and Hull fans should know this more than most) you need squad players cos the likelyhood of getting the starting 13 on the pitch seems to less likely as the SL goes on. If we let him go would we get a better back up player I doubt it, add to this his heart is in the club and he'll be a great boost when re-signed. Scruton isn't coming here the liklihood will be Fozzard and possibly Colburn and that'll be it. This for me will give us a better platform for next year as we need some squad consistency to progress.
Spot on! Good post I agree Cockayne's versatility has been a revelation this season and things certainly start to happen when he comes on, even Stevo seems to rate him! Cockayne would be a very difficult and expensive player to replace IMO.
I too think more than Fozzard and Colborn will be coming, but as to who? It will be interesting to see but Morgan said he and Hudgell have a 'list' of players to talk to!? He has ruled out Aussie signings tho, unless that was just a smokecreen.
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Alex Mc wrote:So who would be the starters out of those 5 (6):
Fozzard Vella Crossman Mills Aizue (Watts)
I think vella and fozzard are the senior props out of those. However we have seen that Garrett Crossman is far better starting games then he is off the bench. I think i would possibly start with Crossman and Fozzard using Vella and Makka off the bench.
The very fact that this may cause a selection headache is surely good news for the squad, providing competition for places, and back-up when needed.
First off congratulations to Mills, lets hope he can now kick on & improve in a setled side. I like a lot of fans I have spoken to have not been impressed with him this year not that he is bad just we expected more from him. I think with Fozzard in the team as the steady experianced enforcer type that we have been lacking it will give him or Mkali(if he stays) a couple of seasons to adapt to that role as they mature with age & experiance. Lee Crooks did the same at Cas then as he moved out Dean Sampson matured to fill his place & lead the forwards thats what we need untill we can get our own production line of talent going.
Alex Mc wrote:So who would be the starters out of those 5 (6):
Fozzard Vella Crossman Mills Aizue(Watts)
I think vella and fozzard are the senior props out of those. However we have seen that Garrett Crossman is far better starting games then he is off the bench. I think i would possibly start with Crossman and Fozzard using Vella and Makka off the bench.
whos leaving then?
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Im suprised at mills resigning. I expected him to go along with steel reading between the lines justin seems to want strength in depth in all the areas next year. therefore I expect him to add to the squad size rather than deplete it with British signings(ish)
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Matty wrote:Good news, the fact that he's English makes it even better.
Very under-rated player with a section of our fans, does all the graft and his size enables our pack to wear out the opposition.
He was regarded as something of a calamity by Quins fans, and he certainly had his moments, but has been much more assured and hard working since his move to us. I think you need his style of play to balance a front row, so good news
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I agree Cockayne's versatility has been a revelation this season and things certainly start to happen when he comes on, even Stevo seems to rate him! Cockayne would be a very difficult and expensive player to replace IMO.
