bnp are very up and down around here, they managed to get voted in wibsey, but then got voted straight out etc. a few years back.

Today's Sadler Express makes for interesting reading. Seems that the BCFC Supporters Trust have shoved their oar in to the debate.

What a great way to ensure closer links and friendship between the two clubs

If VP is ever to house both the Bulls and City the BCFC supporters trust would do well to keep their traps shut IMO. Their interference in the OSV decision making is only likely to give Bulls fans a stick to beat BCFC with and sour relations between both sets of fans.

My grandfather supported City for 50+ years and died at VP on his 70th birthday and probably the happiest day in his lifetime of supporting the club he loved. For me it will always be his resting place and spiritual home. That may make no sense to you but it does to me and a fair few fellow fans who went through what happened in 1985.

It may seem illogical but it is how it is.

Similarly a great many people have had their ashes scattered at Odsal and see that as their final resting place too.

Emotions will run high for fans of the Bulls and City if either club had to move from their current home.

I always have trouble with people who spout off and claim to speak for the majority. City's various supporters clubs/trusts have not been the best.

To be honest relations between the two clubs were fine until the vitriol over moving to VP happened. Everything from having to sit, no place for bouncy castles, cars being damaged, heavy handed stewarding and the "local residents" were crucified by Bulls fans and City fans took umbrage.

It's been a while but those bridges have never been repaired and I simply can't see them getting any better with some of entrenched attitudes on both sides.

I've been going to both VP and Odsal for years. Had my car damaged once at VP in that time. I've had my car vandalised the same amount of times at my own house.

VP is easier for me to get to than Odsal, and I like the fact that VP is covered for when it lashes it down, and the sound carries when the crowd make a noise. Anyone who was there at VP when City lost to Accrington would know what I mean. However, I like Odsal when it's a nice day, it's a smashing place to be.

I was involved in the BISA campaign to get Bulls back to Odsal, mainly because I believed that was it's psiritual home, not because I didn't like VP. People go on about over handed stewards, but they were doing their job (i.e. inforcing the fact that you are not allowed to stand in an all seater stadium). Has anyone tried standing on a yellow section at Odsal? That is a no-no. One thing that got me was the amount of people who would not watch Bulls at VP simply because it was not on tehir doorstep at Odsal. These people would have no qualms at watching Bulls in Wigan, Hull, London etc, but would not go to VP, because they would have to get a bus. Using the area is an excuse.

I believe that due to the history involved at Odsal and VP for Bulls and City respectively, the best option for the clubs to share a stadium would be to have a purpose built one. It hasn't effected clubs such as Wigan RLFC and Wigan Athletic, or Hull FC and Hull City. Apart from Warriors, it has boosted the other teams.

Are you getting a bit mixed up here or is it me?
The bnp have never had an MP elected, ever, at all. They won't be either. The labour party could put a small pile of bricks up for the seat in Bradford South and it would get more votes than the bnp. Surely nobody wants nazis in parliament!!!

The bnp councillor in the area was elected by a small margin in a particularly low turn-out.

Anyway, all that is off topic. Most MPs just try make the right noises at election time to keep their seats.

Personally from what you've said, I've never darken your landlord's door again never mind attempt to engage him in conversation.

Are you saying that you'd consider voting BNP *if* he did support the OSV ??

Where have i said id consider voting bnp?
I said the landlord of our clubhouse is the chairman of bradford branch of bnp, he doesnt force his views on you, if you didnt know he was bnp you would never guess it.
One of our assistant coaches is black british and he has no qualms about being in there, bnp is no longer hardline, some of the peopel who back them can be but if bnp councillor had hardline views then they wouldnt be allowed to say owt.
Halifax/queensbury/thornhill/dewsbury all have bnp councillors in the local areas.
I do not vote anyone cos they all speak absolute rubbish and dont believe any of them, but alot of people in wibsey area did vote for them.

no longer hardline? “I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat…I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter day witch-hysteria.” Nick Griffin, BNP leader. That's their leader How hardline do you want them?!?! The good news is that it might not matter for Bradford for much longer... http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&story=214 My apologies to the moderators for the political link but I think it's appropriate given the direction of the debate.

no longer hardline? “I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat…I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter day witch-hysteria.” Nick Griffin, BNP leader. That's their leader How hardline do you want them?!?! The good news is that it might not matter for Bradford for much longer... http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&story=214 My apologies to the moderators for the political link but I think it's appropriate given the direction of the debate.