Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:27 pm
Stan Butler
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Roverswall wrote:Ill have to disagree with that How many times has the fact that you reached a GF last year been brought up!! Hell look at just this last weekend you get stuffed by Wigan where as we lost a close one to Leeds and you all over our board like a rash (I saw what happened on sat night on your board by the way) but when we mention the fact you took a stuffing the reply is 'Well were an established SL side, Your going down, We can beat anybody, Were still far to good for you (even though 1 point seperates us) etc) all superior talk no matter how you try and stack it!![/b]
Can't honestly say I've seen the GF brought up that much, and as for the trolling at weekend, I think that was simply in retaliation to the same on Sat.
Claiming we are an established SL team is a fact, hardly a gloat.
At the moment Rovers are doing superb whilst we are simply poo, as mentioned it would be very interesting to see both teams performing well.
You constantly read on here....'the know alls'..etc etc, well I'd like to know who it was that gave us that title...Here's a clue..it wasn't us.
Check the forums, count how many threads started on both forums are about the other team, you'd be shocked.You'll find some KR fans have an unhealthy obsession with Hull, born from pure jealousy.
Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:30 pm
Anakin Skywalker
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Stan Butler wrote:Our signings will come good, they are quality players that are underperforming, wether we are anywhere near good enough to repeat last years heroics remains to be seen.As for Sharpe, most realised the work last year was down to Agar and that Sharpe would have to prove himself, to now he hasn't. As for Rovers they have the perfect opportunity to kick on, and it will be interesting to see where both clubs are when they are both playing towards the top of their game.
I hate to say it Stan but that kind of comment is exactly what I am talking about (and no I didnt miss the rest of the line but it didnt seem relevent to the point im making).
We know what we are that being a side who is not going to win anything this year as well as having to survive, as where some FC fans seem to think they have a god given right to be in finals and the playoffs when if you look at the table we are seperated by 1 point, both sides have been in the playoff places this year infact we have been top this year you havent, do we think were going to win SL this year because we have been top in the past??
I think you know the answer to that which is why we dont go spouting about it.
Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:32 pm
Anakin Skywalker
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Stan Butler wrote:Can't honestly say I've seen the GF brought up that much, and as for the trolling at weekend, I think that was simply in retaliation to the same on Sat. Claiming we are an established SL team is a fact, hardly a gloat. At the moment Rovers are doing superb whilst we are simply poo, as mentioned it would be very interesting to see both teams performing well. You constantly read on here....'the know alls'..etc etc, well I'd like to know who it was that gave us that title...Here's a clue..it wasn't us.
Check the forums, count how many threads started on both forums are about the other team, you'd be shocked.You'll find some KR fans have an unhealthy obsession with Hull, born from pure jealousy.
Id more call it a kind of reaction to years of the verbals.
Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:36 pm
Stan Butler
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Roverswall wrote:I hate to say it Stan but that kind of comment is exactly what I am talking about (and no I didnt miss the rest of the line but it didnt seem relevent to the point im making). We know what we are that being a side who is not going to win anything this year as well as having to survive, as where some FC fans seem to think they have a god given right to be in finals and the playoffs when if you look at the table we are seperated by 1 point, both sides have been in the playoff places this year infact we have been top this year you havent, do we think were going to win SL this year because we have been top in the past?? I think you know the answer to that which is why we dont go spouting about it.
You have hit the nail on the head.
It is your issue if you think I'm claiming we're gonna be in finals and play off places just because I'm saying I think our new recruits are good players and will come good.
There is a huge difference with what you see my post as and what it actually is.
The players we have signed in my opinion are good players and will find their form doesn't mean we are gonna be world champions, but you seem to think that's what I mean
Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:41 pm
Anakin Skywalker
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Stan Butler wrote:You have hit the nail on the head.
It is your issue if you think I'm claiming we're gonna be in finals and play off places just because I'm saying I think our new recruits are good players and will come good. There is a huge difference with what you see my post as and what it actually is.
The players we have signed in my opinion are good players and will find their form doesn't mean we are gonna be world champions, but you seem to think that's what I mean
Not superiority, inferiority.
Your missing my point you used the word WILL which isn't a maybe or even a probably its a definately, you can deny it all you like but you may as well have said 'we have better quality players'
Like I said superiority
Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:58 pm
Anakin Skywalker
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Stan Butler wrote:And they will come good, but wether that's good enough is a different matter and not what I am saying, where as it's what your hearing
You assume I'm talking about them being good enough to be world beaters, Why? Because that's what you want to read, satisfies your need to hate us
Tell you what, right now I'm getting a huge superiority complex
I dont but I presume you class them as above average SL players when that isnt how they are playing at the moment.
If you only knew the POWER of the dark side.
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Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:59 pm
Fuzzy~HKR
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cab man wrote:We lose to Leeds (one of the biggest clubs in the world) just!!. I pick up the paper and people talk of a chance lost. In 2 or 3 seasons we have come from being in the same breath as skirlaugh second 13s to taking on the best in the world. It is the equivelent of playing North Ferriby Und three years ago to taking on the might of Manchester Und today. This club is indeed AWESOME, what does the next 3 seasons hold for us my friends.
TROPHYS TROPHYS TROPHYS TROPHYS TROPHYS
all being well 3 seasons ,regular play offs
Big Dave T wrote: Im really bored now of Rovers fans claiming to know everything.
Ill make a prediction, FC to beat Rovers by 20 points in Cardiff, Rovers relegated at the end of the year. Most of the squad disappears and Rovers dont make the franchise. The end for Rovers as a club.
Roland_R wrote:There's more chance of my Dad been black Fuzzy.
Stan Butler wrote:Too right I'm her gimp..
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Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:07 pm
Stan Butler
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Roverswall wrote:I dont but i presume you class them as above average SL players when that isnt how they are playing at the moment.
I have yet to see Manu, Hutch, Godwin perform enough to know how they will fair on form in SL, but from what I have seen they all have it in them to be above average, Sing and Tickle have proven they have what it takes.
I also think that Webster,Cooke,Vella and Fisher are above SL average, with players like Chester, Gene, Ward all with the potential.
So how does this make me think Hull are superior?
Answer is it doesn't, so why do you think it doe's?
Post subject: Re: How far has the red machine come in such a short time
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:20 pm
Anakin Skywalker
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Stan Butler wrote:I have yet to see Manu, Hutch, Godwin perform enough to know how they will fair on form in SL, but from what I have seen they all have it in them to be above average, Sing and Tickle have proven they have what it takes. I also think that Webster,Cooke,Vella and Fisher are above SL average, with players like Chester, Gene, Ward all with the potential.
So how does this make me think Hull are superior?
Answer is it doesn't, so why do you think it doe's?
I would be willing to agree with you but this all stems from the fact you said they WILL come good although you now admit you have no idea!!
Look im not going go round and round all night on this point and I dont have the will for an all night long discussion over it as its not that important.
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